Thanks for this question, Rijon. I agree with Peggy, that I can’t recall any talk of such upset here on the list. LS is a book about techniques rather than practice. OS, as a tool or technique, is rightly included. At the same time, I have long suggested, to anyone who’d listen, that OS is better as practice. I see limitations in the LS take on it, but if there’s anything to do about it, I think it would be to say and write more about OS as practice, rather than trying to make LS something different. LS is the only thing that could have happened AND it can be leveraged by those who see OS as more than what if presents. The work goes on…
m On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 12:25 Peggy Holman via OSList <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rijon, > > I don’t recall a conversation about how Liberating Structures changed OST > on the OS list. > > I just looked at my copy The Surprising Power of Liberating Structures. I > found the description of OST adequate. That said, I couldn’t find anything > called a “short form” of OST so didn’t find their changes. Do you have a > page number? > > I can tell you that I am often uncomfortable with how LS treats a variety > of practices. My lived experience has been that the “short forms” they > advocate reduce a practice to mechanics. In the hands of someone who > doesn’t know what they are doing, they can leave something to be desired. > > Having said that, it has been a while since I have been around the LS > practices. So I can’t name a specific example here. Just my own discomfort. > > Peggy > > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > [email protected] > Twitter: @peggyholman > > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.peggyholman.com > www.journalismthatmatters.org > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval > into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> > > > "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get > burnt, is to become > the fire". > -- Drew Dellinger > > > > On Jul 23, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Rijon Erickson via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Below is an excerpt from a comment made on LinkedIn that makes a bold > assertion about the opinion of the Open Space community regarding changes > to OST within the context of Liberating Structures. > > “Lastly the changes made to Open Space that have been made are counted a > travesty by the Open Space community. Anyone on the OSLIST knows what Barry > Owen and others have had to say about this.” > > > I'm making an assumption that these changes are the ones articulated by > authors Henri Lipmanowicz and Keith McCandless in their book “The > Surprising Power of Liberating Structures” and presented as a "short form" > of OST. > > Upon reading the description of OST in the aforementioned book, I did feel > some discomfort at how the event structure was presented, but I didn't take > offense and consider such a presentation "a travesty". It read to me as > what an OST event would look like to an observer. Near the end of the > chapter in the book, Harrison Owen is credited and the reader is advised to > start with the user's guide if they wish to the OST meeting format. > > Apparently this caused quite a stir a few years back. A reference is made > to Barry Owen > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ACoAAADtVHYBKmACohG0Fe0-c0F4dAQSrDB_QaQ> as > well as to "anyone on the OSLIST" having knowledge of this. > > I'm a member of the board of the Open Space Institute - US, and I've been > on the OSLIST for a few years now, and I don't recall this issue being > raised in public or in private. In addition, I couldn't find evidence here > on the OSLIST either. > > As a board member of the Open Space Institute-US, I feel a deep sense of > responsibility to fully understand these criticisms and to be able to > publicly engage with those in the Liberating Structures community to ensure > that the practice of Open Space Technology and the philosophy of Open Space > is disseminated with accuracy and authenticity. > > Who among you is willing to help me understand? > > P.S. I wasn't aware that an entire community (especially the Open Space > community) could hold a singular opinion, but maybe that's just me. > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org -- -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) MichaelHerman.com OpenSpaceWorld.org
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