On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:23:57 +0000 Peter Flynn <[email protected]> said:

> On 01/14/2017 02:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:19:30 +0000 Peter Flynn <[email protected]> said:
> > 
> >> On 01/12/2017 10:53 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:33:45 +0000 Peter Flynn <[email protected]> said:
> >> [...]
> >>>> On one machine (only) running my new e, the URL bar and bookmarks bar
> >>>> (only) in chromium-browser now flicker *violently* from time to time.
> >>>>
> >>>> In my general ignorance of video, I have put this down to the video card
> >>>> and/or driver conflicting with something. Fortunately it doesn't happen
> >>>> often enough to worry me.
> >>>
> >>> not an nvidia driver perchance?
> >>
> >> Maybe. New Dell something-or-other, standard office fodder.
> > 
> > maybe? how do you not know what gpu you have or that is being used? 
> 
> Because I have never needed to ask or specify — my requirements are more
> for cpu and memory than for graphics. I checked: it's a Dell XPS 8900.
> 
> > if it's nvidia and you're using nvidia drivers it's a whole buhahah 
> > to get the proprietary drivers installed + working in addition to or 
> > as a replacemenet of mesa... if tis a modern-ish nvidia gpu nouveau
> > (mesa) won't even work...
> 
> I am aware that nvidia graphics drivers cause problems — I've seen
> comments and complaints about them for years — but I have never
> experienced problems, so maybe I have just managed to avoid them.
> 
> I looked up my specification, which says:
> 
> >> Video
> >> Controller:
> >> Integrated Intel HD Graphics 530
> >> Discrete • NVIDIA GT 730
> >> • NVIDIA GTX 745
> >> • NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti
> >> • NVIDIA GTX 960
> >> • AMD Radeon R9 370
> >> Memory:
> >> Integrated Shared system memory
> >> Discrete Up to 4 GB GDDR5
> 
> > this matters. so know. 
> 
> It certainly matters if you have problems.

sure. so are you using the intel or the nvidia for display ... for rendering?
sometimes they are used separately.

basically the nvidia driver does have a bug. if you go to:

settings->look->compositor->advanced->rendering

and at the bottom change swapping method from "auto" to "invalidate" does
flickering go away? if not then it may simply be an artefact of your display
panel  the good old interlaced display kind of flicker... but i'd find this
odd... i'd have to see it myself to know.

> > because nvidia drivers seem to have a bug with buffer age support.
> > it's specific to their drivers. there's a work around to disable
> > partial render but knowing your driver is important... :/
> 
> Right. But the problem I described [above] ONLY occurs when using the
> new Enlightenment I compiled last week. It does not occur when using the
> xfce or xubuntu display managers, and it did not occur when I was using
> the repo-supplied e17 Ubuntu package. As I said, it's minimal.

and they don't support partial buffer updates with buffer age - we do. we use
advanced features drivers offer. it happens to work amazingly well on other
drivers (mali, even rpi's vc4), but nvidia seems to have glitches where it
starts reporting incorrect buffer age... the automatic vs invalidate above
forces evas to cease listening to the driver and what it reports and just
ignore it (which is almost certainly what everyone else does as they likely
dont even have the support).

> ///Peter
> 
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