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>    1. Re: terminology 0.9.1: tab switcher and miniview
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>    2. Re: terminology 0.9.1: tab switcher and miniview (Don Harden)
>    3. Re: unusual enlightenment high CPU usage
>       (Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman))
>    4. Re: black screen after idle (Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman))
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:58:40 +0900
> From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [e-users] terminology 0.9.1: tab switcher and miniview
> To: Enlightenment users discussion & support
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> On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:11:24 -0500 Don Harden <[email protected]> said:
>
> > First off let me say kudos and thanks to Carsten Haitzler, Boris Faure,
> and
> > the rest of the terminology dev team. Lots of cool features. I am running
> > terminology 0.9.1, and have a couple of issues
> >
> > 1) The tab switcher is cool, but it displays the contents of the current
> > (most recent) tab only. Views of the other tabs are blank.  It would be
> > very useful to see an image of the contents for each tab.
>
> i get all content of all tabs... and it's live and even updates (so the
> top.htop views keep updating while tab switcher view is up).
>
> http://devs.enlightenment.org/~raster/shot-2016-03-10_09-50-27.png
>
> hell it'll even have background videos play properly in other tabs (keep
> playing). it'll even play videos live that you tycat file.mp4 in the
> terminal..
> in the tab switcher. i don't know why yours are blank, but i see it with
> all
> bells and whistles (and it always did this from the day i wrote the
> feature - i
> made sure to dot the i's and cross the t's here).
>
> :(
>
> > 2) The miniview is also cool and very useful. Sublime Text's Minimap has
> > become indispensable to me, so I was thrilled to find terminology's
> > miniview. However the miniview covers up ends of long lines.
> >
> > Do you know if there are ways to fix the above?
>
> what do you mean? you mean it overlaps the terminal content? yeah - that
> is the
> intent because it's not meant to be permanent - it's "bring up when needed
> then
> hide again". otherwise the window would have to resize to become wider or
> you'd
> resize your terminal to be smaller thus wrapping content or damaging
> content
> (that now may not fit). it's the best solution given the alternatives
> (resizing
> either window or terminal) are worse. :(
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:44:17 -0500
> From: Don Harden <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [e-users] terminology 0.9.1: tab switcher and miniview
> To: Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> Cc: Enlightenment users discussion & support
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> Thanks for the reply.  Something in my
> ~/.config/terminology/config/standard/base.cfg  was causing the tap
> switcher issue.  I blew it away and reconfigured Settings.  Now I see the
> content of all tabs in tab switcher.
>
> Don
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:11:24 -0500 Don Harden <[email protected]> said:
> >
> > > First off let me say kudos and thanks to Carsten Haitzler, Boris Faure,
> > and
> > > the rest of the terminology dev team. Lots of cool features. I am
> running
> > > terminology 0.9.1, and have a couple of issues
> > >
> > > 1) The tab switcher is cool, but it displays the contents of the
> current
> > > (most recent) tab only. Views of the other tabs are blank.  It would be
> > > very useful to see an image of the contents for each tab.
> >
> > i get all content of all tabs... and it's live and even updates (so the
> > top.htop views keep updating while tab switcher view is up).
> >
> > http://devs.enlightenment.org/~raster/shot-2016-03-10_09-50-27.png
> >
> > hell it'll even have background videos play properly in other tabs (keep
> > playing). it'll even play videos live that you tycat file.mp4 in the
> > terminal..
> > in the tab switcher. i don't know why yours are blank, but i see it with
> > all
> > bells and whistles (and it always did this from the day i wrote the
> > feature - i
> > made sure to dot the i's and cross the t's here).
> >
> > :(
> >
> > > 2) The miniview is also cool and very useful. Sublime Text's Minimap
> has
> > > become indispensable to me, so I was thrilled to find terminology's
> > > miniview. However the miniview covers up ends of long lines.
> > >
> > > Do you know if there are ways to fix the above?
> >
> > what do you mean? you mean it overlaps the terminal content? yeah - that
> > is the
> > intent because it's not meant to be permanent - it's "bring up when
> needed
> > then
> > hide again". otherwise the window would have to resize to become wider or
> > you'd
> > resize your terminal to be smaller thus wrapping content or damaging
> > content
> > (that now may not fit). it's the best solution given the alternatives
> > (resizing
> > either window or terminal) are worse. :(
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:05:07 +0900
> From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [e-users] unusual enlightenment high CPU usage
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> Cc: Pavel Reznicek <[email protected]>
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> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 23:42:36 +0100 (CET) Pavel Reznicek
> <[email protected]> said:
>
>
> nothing is going to change here until we have object auto-buffering (and
> partial updates of auto-buffered content). this has been explained before
> as to
> how the compositor canvas works - it is NOT like other compositors. our
> compositor canvas has everything broken down into primitives. every letter
> you
> see in a titlebar or on your shelf is 2 triangles. as opposed to elsewhere
> where it's one big buffer for the window including titlebar. every little
> primitive in the shelf is groken down. we're generating 100's and 1000's of
> triangles per frame.
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >    I have a similar problem (intel graphics). I consider the arguments
> > above about the way how compositor work. However, would't then such a
> > behaviour appear also in other environments with compositing ? I am also
> > running xfce4 with compositing effects (xfwm4) enabled, but I don't see
> > anyhthing similar to what in e20 - there it is just the particular
> > application that eats CPU, not the window manager.
> >
> > One thing I have noticed is that there isn't any noticable change in e20
> > performance when I switch the compositor from OpenGL to Software
> > rendering.
> >
> > In case it may help understand the problem, here is top (most two CPU
> > consuming processes) and perf comparison for e20 and xfce when running
> > glxgears.
> >
> > top in xfce:                            CPU  MEM
> > 7281 root 20 0 274892 47584 34592 S     4.0  0.6   0:01.82 Xorg
> > 7756 user 20 0 118408 15956 10296 S     2.0  0.2   0:00.43 glxgears
> >
> > top in e20:                             CPU  MEM
> > 4569 user 20 0 1087992 140764 58476 R   21.5  1.8   1:55.95 enlightenment
> > 4455 root 20 0  317724  53852 38384 S    3.6  0.7   0:31.28 Xorg
> >
> > perf in xfce (shortened):
> > 28.25% swapper [kernel.kallsyms] [k] intel_idle
> > 1.10% gkrellm libc-2.21.so [.] _IO_vfscanf
> > 1.05% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
> > 0.99% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] sock_poll
> > 0.99% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __fget
> > 0.70% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] unix_poll
> > 0.62% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] fput
> > 0.62% gkrellm [kernel.kallsyms] [k] do_task_stat
> > 0.60% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] do_select
> > 0.58% Xorg Xorg [.] ResourceClientBits
> > 0.49% swapper [kernel.kallsyms] [k] menu_select
> > 0.46% Xorg Xorg [.] WaitForSomething
> > 0.45% Xorg Xorg [.] dixLookupResourceByType
> > 0.41% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore
> > 0.39% glxgears [kernel.kallsyms] [k] i915_parse_cmds
> >
> > perf in e20:
> > 16.61% swapper [kernel.kallsyms] [k] intel_idle
> > 2.43% enlightenment libevas.so.1.17.0 [.]
> > _evas_render_phase1_object_process
> > 1.78% enlightenment libpthread-2.21.so [.]
> __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt
> > 1.71% enlightenment libpthread-2.21.so [.] pthread_mutex_lock
> > 1.41% enlightenment libc-2.21.so [.] _int_malloc
> > 0.92% enlightenment libevas.so.1.17.0 [.]
> > evas_render_updates_internal_loop
> > 0.84% enlightenment libc-2.21.so [.] _int_free
> > 0.77% enlightenment libevas.so.1.17.0 [.] evas_render_updates_internal
> > 0.64% enlightenment module.so [.] evas_gl_common_context_image_push
> > 0.63% enlightenment libeo.so.1.17.0 [.] eo_data_scope_get
> > 0.52% enlightenment module.so [.] evas_gl_common_context_font_push
> > 0.42% enlightenment [kernel.kallsyms] [k] i915_parse_cmds
> > 0.41% enlightenment [kernel.kallsyms] [k] i915_gem_pwrite_ioctl
> > 0.38% skype libglib-2.0.so.0.4600.2 [.] g_mutex_lock
> > 0.37% skype libglib-2.0.so.0.4600.2 [.] g_mutex_unlock
> > 0.36% enlightenment libeo.so.1.17.0 [.] eo_data_xunref_internal
> > 0.35% enlightenment [kernel.kallsyms] [k] copy_user_enhanced_fast_string
> > 0.33% enlightenment [kernel.kallsyms] [k] drm_gem_object_lookup
> > 0.33% enlightenment module.so [.] _evas_gl_common_context_push
> > 0.33% enlightenment libc-2.21.so [.] __memcpy_sse2_unaligned
> > 0.33% enlightenment [kernel.kallsyms] [k] i915_gem_madvise_ioctl
> > 0.31% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __fget
> > 0.30% enlightenment libevas.so.1.17.0 [.] _evas_object_clip_prev_reset
> > 0.30% enlightenment libc-2.21.so [.] __libc_calloc
> > 0.30% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
> > 0.30% enlightenment libevas.so.1.17.0 [.] _evas_image_render
> > 0.29% enlightenment libevas.so.1.17.0 [.] evas_render_mapped
> > 0.29% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] sock_poll
> > 0.28% gkrellm libc-2.21.so [.] _IO_vfscanf
> > 0.27% enlightenment [kernel.kallsyms] [k] drm_ioctl
> > 0.27% enlightenment module.so [.] _evas_gl_common_image_push
> > 0.27% enlightenment libc-2.21.so [.] __memcmp_sse4_1
> > 0.26% enlightenment libeo.so.1.17.0 [.] eo_isa
> > 0.26% enlightenment libevas.so.1.17.0 [.] evas_object_smart_changed_get
> > 0.25% enlightenment libevas.so.1.17.0 [.] evas_common_font_rgba_draw
> > 0.24% enlightenment libeo.so.1.17.0 [.] eo_data_xref_internal
> > 0.23% Xorg [kernel.kallsyms] [k] unix_poll
> > 0.23% enlightenment module.so [.] evas_gl_common_shader_program_get
> > 0.22% enlightenment libc-2.21.so [.] malloc_consolidate
> > 0.21% skype [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __fget
> > 0.21% enlightenment libdrm_intel.so.1.0.0 [.] 0x000000000000633e
> >
> > Pavel
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:06:31 +0900
> From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [e-users] black screen after idle
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> On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 16:58:27 +0100 Benoit Barthelet <
> [email protected]>
> said:
>
> do you see a mouse pointer at all when you press a key or mose the mouse to
> "come out of blanking" ?
>
> > 1st of all let me tell you that I'm not sure it's an enlightenment issue
> :)
> >
> > that said, when logged in a session, after a while idle the screen goes
> > black and i cant get back into the session : pressing keyboard, mouse
> won't
> > let me in.
> >
> > if I ssh into I can see the session is active with loginctl
> -session-status
> >
> > the only way I found to not have this issue is to be in presentation mode
> > or to lock the screen while idle.
> > once I got the issue I only found a way to go back in by loginctl
> > -kill-session
> >
> > this change occurred after I updated a long list of packages so i can't
> say
> > it's e20 :)
> >
> > i tried to look at various logs, dmesg, syslog, .xsessions-errors and see
> > nothing that helps me understand what would cause this.
> >
> > if you have something in mind that I could check or any pointers where to
> > look at that would be great :)
> >
> > thanks
> > --
> > benoit barthelet
> > http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF150E01A72F6D2EE
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> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:08:21 +0900
> From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [e-users] Can't run any WM except e
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> On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 22:45:51 +0000 Peter Flynn <[email protected]> said:
>
> > Since upgrading my Xubuntu laptop from 14.10 to 15.04, I can no longer
> > log into an xfce or xubuntu window managers, only into e.
> >
> > (So what? I hear you say :-)
> >
> > If I try to start a different session, when I finish the password, the
> > login window disappears for a second and then reappears. No session.
> >
> > When I log into e, the login window disappears for a much shorter time,
> > maybe 1/10 second, and then reappears, and the disappears as the e logo
> > comes up and the e session starts normally.
> >
> > I can no longer run update-manager or software-center or
> > do-release-upgrade: at first they just segfaulted, but now the disk
> > light flickers and then the prompt returns with no error message
> > (do-release-upgrade does still segfault though, whereas before it spewed
> > out Python errors).
> >
> > If I open a separate shell with Ctl-Alt-F1, I get the immediate message
> >
> > > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> > > run-parts: /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available exited with return
> code
> > > 139
> >
> > And I have noticed that whenever I make an svn commit from the command
> > line, I get prompted in a pop-up window (!) for my realm password
> > *twice*. Previously the prompt was at the command line, and only once
> > ever, and it remembered it afterwards.
> >
> > All of which makes me wonder if somehow I am running a shell inside a
> > shell or a WM inside a WM. Something is badly hosed and none of the
> > suggested remedies for update-manager segfaulting have had any effect.
>
> no - you're not running a shell in a shell or wm in a wm... but something
> really
> bad has happened to your os .. somehow. some update/upgrade has broken
> something
> pretty core... it just happens to not affect e. :)
>
> > But e is running happily...
> >
> > ///Peter
> >
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