On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:21:50 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]> said:

> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:11:35 -0800 Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:59 PM, David Seikel <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:32:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:24:14 -0800 Cedric BAIL
> > >> <[email protected]> said:
> > >>
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Viacheslav Reutskiy
> > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > > Today I'm glad to announce a new version of Eflete.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cool stuff !
> > >> >
> > >> > > This release is very hard for Eflete team, because we
> > >> > > remade almost all UX behavior.
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes, I am noticing this look really clean. I would actually whish
> > >> > that if you have time, you could bring some of those improvement
> > >> > back to Elementary theme actually. Quick question, did you use
> > >> > Eflete to actually do the change themself ? :-)
> > >> >
> > >> > > We are remade the navigation by groups, switch between the part
> > >> > > state made more easier. Each group open in the separately tab,
> > >> > > so now you can edit several groups at one time. In the demo
> > >> > > mode possible set the differential content to swallow:
> > >> > > rectangle, image or Elementary widget.
> > >> > > Also removed the warning and error popups - now if action not
> > >> > > available the widget disabled, or highlighted to red.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > And many another changes. So download, install - enjoy it!
> > >> >
> > >> > It is really starting to be a very serious edje editor. Nicely
> > >> > done. I am not a designer myself, so I should get some of my
> > >> > friends to try it, but the main issue they would face I guess is
> > >> > the lack of documentation. Maybe not documentation, but video
> > >> > tutorial showing how to customize your own button/spinner/... As
> > >> > what really eflete lack at this point is public awareness. Anyone
> > >> > working on doing there own Elementary theme, should really play
> > >> > with this tool and packager should really provide it with efl !
> > >> >
> > >> > Really a cool job ! Congrats to everyone, guys :-)
> > >>
> > >> Actually.. that's not a bad idea... we already have the elm_player
> > >> - why not include video tutorials WITH eflete and just have them
> > >> in a menu/dialog so people can just browse through without dealing
> > >> with youtube ads or whatever. :) if you dont want to put them in
> > >> the git and install tree - just point the player to a url
> > >> guaranteed to always have the video there. (download.e.org?)
> > >
> > > So long as those video tutorials don't require you to copy text out
> > > of them.  Why not text tutorials?  Takes up waaay less space, and
> > > probably more useful to more people.
> > 
> > Eflete is 100% graphical. There is very little text you could type,
> > test it ;-)
> 
> OK, so my first sentence is irrelevant.  Still doesn't answer the
> question.  Videos are harder to make, take up a huge amount of space,
> and are harder to use.  I have never seen their appeal for things like
> software tutorials, except that it's the TV and youtube generations,
> reading is too hard.

that's part of the reason - reading is not done as much. it discourages people.
more than 3 lines of text? tldr.

but a video is far more expressive when you want to show HOW to use a tool -
how to manipulate elements and what the visual results will be. far far far
more expressive ANd its less work to do a screencast of editing something and
showing the results than it is to do some screenshots and type it all up.


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