Am Sun, 9 Aug 2015 14:37:26 +1000
schrieb David Seikel <[email protected]>:

> On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 12:35:56 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 03:19:07 +0200 Daniel Christopher Würl
> > <[email protected]> said:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > as a long-term e16 user who migrated to fvwm some eight months
> > > ago, I'm toying with the idea of installing e19.
> > > 
> > > Since I currently run debian 8 this would be a time consuming
> > > task, so I'd like to ask some questions before I spend some hours
> > > in vein ;)
> > > 
> > > How stable is the API / theming API ?
> > > I really love to create my own themes, but I'm not motivated to
> > > fix them over every minor revision. Same goes for EFL, I'm
> > > perfectly happy to hack together some tools I need, but I'm not
> > > ready to adapt them to a moving target all the time.
> > > 
> > > How long does a release of enlightenment "live" ?
> > 
> > there were some minor breaks (little things changed) between e17 and
> > e18. we're keeping things stable since then though theme expands and
> > thus there are new things to theme if you want a complete look, so
> > over time it requires work anyway to keep up.
> > 
> > > Mostly part of above questions, but having to compile the whole
> > > efl / enlightenment stack every other month would be a bit
> > > off-putting.
> > 
> > compiling efl is easy. if you bother once to write the procedure in
> > a script and then just re-run it every time. the script
> > clones/updates git repos and walks through n dirs re-building each
> > one maybe with specific options. if you bother doing it just once
> > for yourself, then everything after that is gravy. what that script
> > has may vary from person to person, distro to distro, but the raw
> > content of it is on the enlightenment.org docs on how to get/build
> > e and efl. i scripted my builds so long ago i'ts not funny. i just
> > don't get this "oh but it's SOOOOOOOOOO hard" line. it's an excuse
> > for not having simply written down the commands in a script for
> > yourself ONCE. i just use my scripts and for me it's:
> > 
> > svup.sh
> > rbe.sh
> > 
> > (yes my svup.sh script was from svn days - i modified it for git - i
> > have 2 as i want to update separately to building).
> 
> Many of the EFL developers have their own build script in git.  I
> have one in the Enlightenment git at
> 
> https://git.enlightenment.org/admin/devs.git/tree/developers/onefang/build_efl.lua
> 
> Which tries to compile most of the stuff we host in git.  Other
> developers have their build scripts in the admin/devs area of the git
> as well.
> 
> > the biggest bit of work is getting your dependencies installed
> > (once). that is the real work. not rebuilding or updating.
> 
> Yep, a build script wont help with that, as it's generally only done
> once.  Most of the dependencies are listed on the
> https://www.enlightenment.org/download page that includes basic build
> instructions.
> 

Ok,
thanks for the explanation ;)
Aside from the file manager everything sounds good so far, so I'll give
it a try ;D

Best wishes,
Daniel

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