On 07/12/2015 03:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 22:02:59 +0100 Peter Flynn <[email protected]> said:
> 
>> I've been running e17 under Xubuntu 14.04 on my old Dell D810 laptop for
>> just under a year.
> 
> so what did you CHANGE on your system that this suddenly happened. 

I haven't done any regular (apt-get) updates for a couple of weeks, so
there won't have been any systems changes.

> you are runing e17... that means you definitely havent updated e. 

Right. I am using only what comes from the Xubuntu 14.04 repos: no
additional packages. (I did try e19 on another machine a while back but
it wanted all kinds of additional packages that conflicted with the
system-installed software, and it switched from Network-Manager to
connman, which at the time was incapable of connecting to some networks).

> e17 just hasn't changed. we don't update/maintain it... so... 

Right. I wasn't considering that e17 itself was in any way involved...

> something else changed. 

...except possibly that I had accidentally disturbed some screensaver
setting by responding No to the confusing pop-up question about waking
the screensaver too fast.

> some system update started breaking x screensaver behavior? 

More likely a hardware problem, I think.

> logically speaking... it can't be a change in e as it didn't change.
> :)

Correct.

> if no software changed (no system updates as well as no e).. then one can only
> conclude... that maybe your hw is now on the way out?

Yep. Having done a lot more digging it now looks like the next thing to
check is the backlight.

> but a sudden change in behavior doesn't simply happen on its own.

Yep. There's always a cause. But sometimes it isn't clear, and software
settings *do* sometimes change arbitrarily (rarely) because of bugs in
settings management that get triggered by unusual but reasonable
circumstances.

Unless anyone can come up with a reason for that weird error pop-up from
e about having "disabled the screensaver too fast" then I am assuming
it's a hardware fault.

///Peter


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