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Re: E config questions (Wido) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 15:25:21 +0100 > From: toki clover <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [e-users] efl dependency on logind > To: "Enlightenment users discussion & support" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > cagw_srmfgtow_knbzxhu-9ze+r8wwhjxqvmqsmosriaqcyt...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2014-12-29 12:19 GMT+01:00 Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>: > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:10 AM, toki clover <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > LOL ! If even using a protocol defined by systemd is an issue for you, > > so you won't be able to run Wayland and maybe you will soon run out of > > VT... > > > > Huh? So I need SystemD to have VT? That's quite some news. > > -- > Error 404: gentoo user <0123456789> was not found > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:45:44 +0100 > From: Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [e-users] efl dependency on logind > To: "Enlightenment users discussion & support" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > cagv1asxy2gmbuwtwn7padjwdngum5zj-x+yj_vj98rg3g9t...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:25 PM, toki clover <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2014-12-29 12:19 GMT+01:00 Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>: > >> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:10 AM, toki clover <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> LOL ! If even using a protocol defined by systemd is an issue for you, > >> so you won't be able to run Wayland and maybe you will soon run out of > >> VT... > > > > Huh? So I need SystemD to have VT? That's quite some news. > > VT are a security hole in the kernel. They are slow and very difficult > to maintain. If you had looked at the logic of the code needed to > handle a terminal (look at terminology if you want to see just the > complexity of writing a terminal), you will understand that VT in the > kernel is a bad idea. So yes, kernel developers are working on making > it possible to remove VT to have it run in user space. And yes, they > are going to rely on systemd and logind as it is the only solution > that make it work. VT support wont be gone tomorrow, but it's on a > sure death track. > -- > Cedric BAIL > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:11:35 +0100 > From: Walter Rudametkin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding > focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ... > To: Enlightenment users discussion & support > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi Wido, > > Thanks for your reply. Below you can find my remarks. > > On 29/12/14 01:55, Wido wrote: > > Welcome! I'll try to answer the bits I know. You'll see that all options > > can be configured from the preferencies, no need to hack conf files. > > > > 1) should be working that way, but I know there are some libs that do not > > behave that way (java, for example). Check preferencies -> windows -> > > options -> new windows > Those options are for new windows. Those work fine. But I'd like it if > existing windows were brought up on the current desktop, which is not > the case, the view is always switched to the desktop where the window > currently resides. > > > 2) you don't need enlightenment_remote for keyboard, just go to options > -> > > input -> keyboard. > There's no shortcuts in Settings->Input->Key Bindings for any of the > following: > - change/set scaling > - hide/show all shelves > - change shelve sizes > > How would one implement shortcuts or scripts to do those things > specifically? I can do that in xfce and gnome fairly easily. > > > 3) gtk apps should not be E concern as it uses EFL libs. Maybe you need > to > > load gnome services? preferencies -> applications -> desktop environment. > I thought Settings->Look->Scaling would affect gtk apps. I'll see if > loading services and setting DPI through dconf helps or not, but I'm not > too optimistic. > > > > > 4) preferencies -> windows -> window seletor (may have a different name, > I > > run E in spanish :P) > In Settings->Windows->Window Switcher there's no options to return to a > "normal" alt+tab behavior like in gnome, xfce, kde, windows, etc. > I tried winlist-ng but it doesn't compile. > > > > > 5) Don't use task, so I can't tell > > > > 6) dito 5? > > > > 7) haven't seen that behaviour, sorry > I think it's a bug. I can reproduce it every time even on a new profile. > > > 8) you don't want to resize windows from titlebar? I think that's up to > the > > theme, you could select in pref -> apearance -> borders -> noresize to > get > > that (but I think that make everything non-resizable...you could try > anyway) > Yeah, it's Settings->Look->Borders but it does the opposite of what I'd > like. It makes the borders of the window not resizable but the title is > still resizable. > The fact I can't set params in Signal Binding Settings must be another bug. > > Best regards, > Walter > > > > > > > > cheers! > > > > 2014-12-28 20:27 GMT-03:00 Walter Rudametkin <[email protected]>: > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > I'm new to enlightenment but I'm really liking it so far. Nice work. > > > However, after a couple of days playing with it I have a couple of > > > things I'm having trouble configuring. > > > > > > 1) I would like windows to be brought up on the current desktop instead > > > of the view being moved to the other desktop. For example, if I'm on > > > desktop 1 and I select an app in the IBar or through a shortcut (e.g. > > > tomboy-->show notes) that's on desktop 4, I would like it brought up on > > > current desktop. How should I configure that? > > > > > > 2) I would like to make custom keyboard shortcuts to : > > > - change scaling (this is useful when I changing to a high-res > > > monitor, laptop screen, or my TV especially if I'm far away) > > > - hide/show all shelves > > > - change shelve sizes > > > I do this in Xfce with xfconf and in Gnome with dconf, but > > > enlightenment_remote and edbus don't seem to offer the same level of > > > configuration. > > > > > > 3) How do you scale gtk apps like deluge or nemo? > > > > > > 4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have > > > multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you > > > alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a > > > third window is selected instead. > > > Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or > > > windows ? > > > > > > 5) Why are icons in Task different and uglier than the icons in IBar > for > > > the same apps ? > > > > > > 6) I have a transparent shelve but Task adds a small square background > > > to icons too. > > > > > > 7) Sometimes windows disappear when I try to move them by clicking on > > > the titlebar or they don't appear when I open them. Changing desktops > > > makes them come back most of the time, but sometimes I have to close > > > them through the taskbar. A simple case to reproduce: > > > - click on desktop, open settings > > > - move to next desktop > > > - click on desktop, open settings (window does not show) > > > - however, the window does appear in the pager and the > > > taskbar, but is otherwise not visible on the desktop > > > - to make window visible, change to another desktop and come back. > > > > > > 8) I would like to have the entire titlebar do the same thing when > > > left-clicking it instead of having just the top part of the bar resize > > > and the lower part move. > > > However, In Signal Binding Settings I can't set action params to do > > > this. I need to set 'end' for mouse,up,1 on e.event.resize.t, but the > > > params aren't editable. > > > > > > In case it helps, I'm on Archlinux using enlightenment 0.19.2-1. > > > > > > Happy holidays, > > > Walter > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! 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If you have > > > > multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then > > > > you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one > > > > selected, a third window is selected instead. > > > > Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome > > > > or windows ? > > > Settings-All-Windows-Window Switcher-Selecting : > > check "focus" and do not check "raise" > > > Settings-All-Windows-Window List ->Sort Order: > > "Most recently used" > > > These are the best settings I've found to be able to toggle back and > forth between most recently selected windows. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 12:36:49 +0100 > From: Petter Adsen <[email protected]> > Subject: [e-users] E config questions > To: Enlightenment users discussion & support > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <20141230123649.4ce30e0f@fenris> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi, > > I hadn't looked at enlightenment for a lot of years, but recently > installed it since it offers separate workspaces for each screen, > something that I missed in xfce. I've got it set up mostly as I like > it, but have a couple of questions: > > First off, can I set it up to switch workspaces if I move the > mouse-wheel on the desktop (as in addition to over the pager)? > > Second, how do I stop the pointer from glowing blue every time I click > something? I know it's a minor issue, but it bugs me :) Do I need to > make a theme? I should probably do that anyway, since I'd like to make > it look a bit more like xfce. > > Also, I don't know what does this, but if I enable gnome services, the > pointer disappears. This probably has more to do with gnome than e, but > does anyone have any ideas where I should start to find out what > exactly causes this? > > Any help would be most appreciated :) > > Petter > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 13:30:16 +0100 > From: toki clover <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [e-users] E config questions > To: "Enlightenment users discussion & support" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > cagw_srp1j8dx-vcy3+y7jnn4yniksxvhyvlsgjj6wu3feq_...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2014-12-30 12:36 GMT+01:00 Petter Adsen <[email protected]>: > > > Hi, > > > > I hadn't looked at enlightenment for a lot of years, but recently > > installed it since it offers separate workspaces for each screen, > > something that I missed in xfce. I've got it set up mostly as I like > > it, but have a couple of questions: > > > > First off, can I set it up to switch workspaces if I move the > > mouse-wheel on the desktop (as in addition to over the pager)? > > > > Second, how do I stop the pointer from glowing blue every time I click > > something? I know it's a minor issue, but it bugs me :) Do I need to > > make a theme? I should probably do that anyway, since I'd like to make > > it look a bit more like xfce. > > > > Also, I don't know what does this, but if I enable gnome services, the > > pointer disappears. This probably has more to do with gnome than e, but > > does anyone have any ideas where I should start to find out what > > exactly causes this? > > > > Any help would be most appreciated :) > > > > Petter > > > > > You're asking too much!!! Just kidding. > > I don't knwo about the feasibility of the first point... but you can look > at > the key bindings configuration section. > > An alternative is to switch when the pointer reach an edge of the screen. > And this usable with a 4x2, 4x4 or higher VD (virtual desktop). Remains > minor annoyances when a window is on the edge... but it's still a workable > set up with cheap space to work with. > > No idea whatsoever on the second point it's complicated depending on the > toolkit an app depends on (seems to be gtk+[23] for you.) > > And I don't know what you're talking about by _gnome services_... because > it could be D-Bus/ConsoleKit/PolKit services... E/EFL has it's own D-Bus > services running for ... e.g. power buttons (Note: UPower is needed here) > et al. It does not depend/run other *Kit crap. So no idead on those > supposedly > _gnome services_. > > -- > Error 404: gentoo user <0123456789> was not found > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:51:55 -0300 > From: Wido <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [e-users] E config questions > To: "Enlightenment users discussion & support" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > caau3ahvzt24i5et3mcdsqadjsffrw1d3xhsp7xzsbizlrwg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Welcome back Peter > > It's possible to do the scroll thing. There is already a shortcut for > alt+scroll in any place of the desktop, but if you want with only scroll go > to preferencies -> input -> mouse bindings. Create a new binding for scroll > and play with the options to where it applies (I think there are 9 options > with a selector. I'm not running E at the moment and I don't remember all > those options, sorry) > > For the pointer, I have chosen to use only X cursor and put a nice theme > (there are lots to choose from in the qt oxygen theme, in debian). I think > there is a check to disable effects, or used to be....not sure. > > if you want to check for errors, the first place I'd look is the > ~/.xsessions-errors. E logs there, so you may see if there is something. > You can make E more verbose with some env variables, I don't remember those > but check for Raster mails as he always mention them. You may export them > and reload E. > > > BTW, I haven't used xfce in a long long time, but I recall the default > theme was very similar to clearlooks. Maybe you'll like to check the new > theme that was posted in the list a couple weeks ago. You may find it here > https://github.com/tokiclover/e-gtk-theme > > 2014-12-30 9:30 GMT-03:00 toki clover <[email protected]>: > > > 2014-12-30 12:36 GMT+01:00 Petter Adsen <[email protected]>: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I hadn't looked at enlightenment for a lot of years, but recently > > > installed it since it offers separate workspaces for each screen, > > > something that I missed in xfce. I've got it set up mostly as I like > > > it, but have a couple of questions: > > > > > > First off, can I set it up to switch workspaces if I move the > > > mouse-wheel on the desktop (as in addition to over the pager)? > > > > > > Second, how do I stop the pointer from glowing blue every time I click > > > something? I know it's a minor issue, but it bugs me :) Do I need to > > > make a theme? I should probably do that anyway, since I'd like to make > > > it look a bit more like xfce. > > > > > > Also, I don't know what does this, but if I enable gnome services, the > > > pointer disappears. This probably has more to do with gnome than e, but > > > does anyone have any ideas where I should start to find out what > > > exactly causes this? > > > > > > Any help would be most appreciated :) > > > > > > Petter > > > > > > > > > You're asking too much!!! Just kidding. > > > > I don't knwo about the feasibility of the first point... but you can look > > at > > the key bindings configuration section. > > > > An alternative is to switch when the pointer reach an edge of the screen. > > And this usable with a 4x2, 4x4 or higher VD (virtual desktop). Remains > > minor annoyances when a window is on the edge... but it's still a > workable > > set up with cheap space to work with. > > > > No idea whatsoever on the second point it's complicated depending on the > > toolkit an app depends on (seems to be gtk+[23] for you.) > > > > And I don't know what you're talking about by _gnome services_... because > > it could be D-Bus/ConsoleKit/PolKit services... E/EFL has it's own D-Bus > > services running for ... e.g. power buttons (Note: UPower is needed here) > > et al. It does not depend/run other *Kit crap. So no idead on those > > supposedly > > _gnome services_. > > > > -- > > Error 404: gentoo user <0123456789> was not found > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, > > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is > > your > > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. 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