On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 09:06:46PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:30:28 +0300 Markus Törnqvist <[email protected]> said:
>
>> I'm a heavy user of the keyboard, so messing with the pointer doesn't feel
>> right. Especially not with keyboard-driven software like mplayer and maybe
>> Rage.
>
>almost everything is keyboard driven in rage. in fact osd appear/disappear is
>the only thing not explicitly kbd controlled - its implicit in any action - eg
>toggle loop mode, or pause/play or ff/rw etc. it comes on at any of these. i
>guess an o for that would be something that could be added.

Sweet! :)

>> The use-case for the OSD, for me, is that sometimes I just want to know for
>> how long I've been watching something. Or how much is left. Forcing OSD on
>> and off (ie hitting o twice) sounds like a good thing.

>> More generally the case for mplayer keys is that there's a lot of nice
>> enough features, turning subtitles on and off, and I'm sure a lot of
>> people know the mplayer keybindings already as there's nothing wrong with
>> them.
>
>subtitles right now have no controls at all beyond "you'll get them if there is
>a matching .srt file or you add -sub file.srt on the cmdline". very basic atm.

I seldom use subtitles myself, but as mplayer sometimes autodetects them from
online backups I just turn them off. That's a shortcut key ;)

>> Yeah, that was actually the first thing I did :D Like launch rage with no
>> arguments, and dragging a video to it.
>
>:) i made that work as i kind of knew someone would do this and thus i made it
>function as you might expect. i also added it so you can dnd more and more into
>rage over time to add to your current playlist. :)

Cool, didn't go that deep into it though, but that's definitely a good thing :)

>> I get the point why you might not want an open file dialog but is that the
>> general trend of EFL-driven apps? I appreciate software with an open file
>> function that allows me to find the files by typing around and open in
>> the current app.
>
>the dnd makes uses of another app that is devoted to futzing about finding
>files - the filemanager. but what you want there imho is not a file selector -
>that's a poor mans version of that. you want something like evrything in e
>built into your app - so you can navigate like a cmdline and find/play/see
>things. that's a whole new ballgame inho where the app wants to customize and
>define your view here - eg give you video thumbnails that actually play like
>the playlist widget on the right... this is a whole project on its own imho.

So basically you mean "launch full-fledged EFM in Rage's context?"

IIRC there was an old operating system, but I can't remember which one, that
used the file manager for all "open file" type operations. The philosophy
being that those dialogs are subsets of the file manager _anyway_ so why
not just use the whole thing. At least in theory I like that thinking if
it really works. Like knows that it's dealing with Rage now and not something
else.

Looking at how gnome does this stuff makes me sad and annoyed, so anything
should be better ;)

-- 
mjt


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