:(
Thank you :)

On 05/14/2014 01:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Wed, 14 May 2014 11:23:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc <[email protected]> said:
>
>> On 05/14/2014 09:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc <[email protected]> said:
>>>
>>>> On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc <[email protected]>
>>>>> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and
>>>>>> vmware-player-W8.desktop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon.
>>>>>> I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox
>>>>>> but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of
>>>>>> vmware-player-W8.png).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not understand what may occur.
>>>>> because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a
>>>>> seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the
>>>>> mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when
>>>>> app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf
>>>>> that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do
>>>>> this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware)
>>>>> which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or
>>>>> symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm
>>>>> startup id.
>>>>>
>>>>> to check the startup id:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ xprop | grep ID
>>>>> _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = "E_START|133"
>>>>>
>>>>> (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from
>>>> the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..?
>>> it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window
>>> created is just a new window event from x. there is no link between the
>>> window appearing and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that
>>> link. the most accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next
>>> best is the netwm PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was
>>> launched by e in ibar is the same pid that creates the window and sets the
>>> pid property on it - for firefox and chromium this is not the case and
>>> unless they support the startup id property (last i checked chromium does
>>> not), then this can't/doesn't work. we cant figure out which icon you
>>> clicked on that launched the window that you see. if we can figure it out -
>>> we match them up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I see, so maybe, there is a solution by modifying  the .desktop file
>> which could start a  bash file that will provide some ID then start the
>> application..?
> you can't. well you could do it with an ld_preload and trap the window create
> and then force a property to be added - but no such ld_preload has been 
> written
> and it wont work for setuid apps.
>
> e already provides the id in an environment variable as per freedesktop.org
> specs - some apps support it. efl always supports it as its done in the 
> toolkit
> if the app likes it or not.
>
>


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