On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Jeff Hoogland <[email protected]> wrote:
> What do you mean by "useful geometry"?
>
"the available space without overlapping shelves"(useful geometry)

>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:03 PM, [email protected]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jeff Hoogland <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:07 PM, [email protected]
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jeff Hoogland <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun Mar 27 2011 11:25:55 AM CDT, [email protected]
>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Jeff Hoogland
>> >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Sun Mar 27 2011 10:41:25 AM CDT, [email protected]
>> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Jeff Hoogland
>> >> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > Is there a way to have Window Management use both "Smart
>> >> >> > > > Expansion" and "Fill Available Space"? I really like the
>> >> >> > > > latter
>> >> >> > > > setting, but when it is toggle windows always open over
>> >> >> > > > lapping
>> >> >> > > > my
>> >> >> > > > shelves and in general act fairly "dumb".
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > And what is the problem with just using 'smart expansion' then?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > It allows windows over lap shelves that are set to "don't allow
>> >> >> > windows to over lap"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Isn't it the other way round? smart expansion should maximize
>> >> >> windows
>> >> >> so that they do not overlap shelves that do not allow overlapping.
>> >> >> what is it that you really want? does smart expansion not fill the
>> >> >> space that you want it to?
>> >> >>
>> >> > It fills open space, but it seems to ignore shelves when first
>> >> > opened.
>> >> > For
>> >>
>> >> What is 'it'? what is the effect that makes you think that shelves are
>> >> ignored?
>> >>
>> >> > instance on smart expansion opening firefox fills the screen minus
>> >> > the
>> >> > shelf. On fill space, firefox opens filling the whole screen even my
>> >> > shelves.
>> >>
>> >> That is how these maximize methods are supposed to work. what would be
>> >> better?
>> >>
>> > What I am looking for that is not currently happening -
>> >
>> > Shelves that are suppose to not let windows over lap them should never
>> > have
>> > windows over lap then. Regardless of if the window state is set to
>> > "smart
>> > expansion" or "fill available space".
>> >
>> Ok, I guess one part is a problem with initial placement of windows
>> that are larger than the available space without overlapping
>> shelves(useful geometry)  and the other is a bug in fill policy that
>> it does not take non-overlap shelves into account. For the first one
>> could resize initial window to be within 'useful geometry' though not
>> sure what side effects this might have. If you keep firefox smaller
>> than useful geometry it shouldnt overlap with shelves when opening it
>> or does it?
>>
>>
>> > Sorry, should have been more clear on what I was looking for.
>> >
>> > ~Jeff
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ~Jeff
>> >> >> > ~Jeff
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > > Regards,
>> >> >> > > > ~Jeff
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
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