On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 21:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 15:39 -0400, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > I'm a multi-boot/multi-desktop user. I've always got at least three linux
> > ditros installed on which I try to get both e16 & e17 as well as xfce and
> > occasionaly kde desktops installed. Though I'm not likely to install one
> > that cant't be had via the distro's package management system. 
> > 
> > My PC has an integrated nvidia card which doesn't respond well to the open
> > source drivers. So I use a proprietary one.
> > 
> > I'm also a dedicated startx user who can't stand gui login screens. I boot
> > to a virtual console (such as traditionally found at runlevel 3) And when/if
> > I'm ready to use a gui, I copy the appropriate file to ~/.xinitrc... Since I
> > don't do well with fine print I tend to use vga=normal so that my console
> > screens are easy to deal with. This results in a default xserver screen
> > mode of 1280x1024, which with kde, xfce and e17 I can set to the 1024x786
> > that works out well for my eyes.
> > 
> > However if e16 has a screen resolution tool, I can't find it. I think the
> > traditional way to overide the default screen resolution was to edit the
> > mode line(s) in the xorg.conf... I'm no expert at configuring an xorg.conf
> > however. But if I found a line in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf like this:
> > 
> > Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" 
> > "480x360" "320x240"
> > 
> > I'd try changing it to this:
> > 
> > Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" 
> > "480x360" "320x240"
> > 
> > Unfortunately of all my installed linux only PCLinuxOS has any such mode
> > lines in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf... And PCLinuxOS doesn't have e16 in their
> > repo. The xorg.conf found in my Arch and Xubuntu installations don't seem
> > to use such lines, And my OpenSuSE 11.3 doesn't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf,
> > but appears to use a system of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf files instead.
> > None of which currently contain any mode lines like the above. 
> > 
> > Could sombody tell me how I can get e16 to use a screen resolution of
> > 1024x768 instead of 1280x1024????
> > 
> > I suppose I could try adding the mode line to the current screen sections
> > of Arch's and Xubuntu's xorg.conf, right after the depth line of each 
> > 'Subsection "Display"' within it. Maybe that would work but I haven't a clue
> > what to do for the OpenSuSE one that doesn't seem to use an xorg.conf. I
> > mean it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d screen.conf only says:
> > 
> > Section "Screen"                                                            
> >   Identifier "Default Screen"                                               
> >                                                                             
> >   Device "Default Device"                                                   
> >                                                                             
> >   ## Doesn't help for radeon/radeonhd drivers; use magic in                 
> >   ## 50-device.conf instead                                                 
> >   Monitor "Default Monitor"                                                 
> >                                                                             
> > EndSection
> > 
> > So if the above concept of inserting mode lines in the xorg.conf
> > files works, Where would I put the mode line for the OpenSuSE's
> > xorg.conf.d set up? Or is there a different method I should know about???
> 
> 
> Hahaha :D
> 
> I still run openSUSE 11.2 and used sax to give me the needed xorg.conf
> lines for my Ubuntu installs, that came with this new, annoying
> configurations.
> 
> Just 2 cents, to keep it easy, install a small Suse 11.2 or earlier
> openSUSE, run sax and add the result to your other Linux, with some
> tweaking, you can't copy it, but you'll be able to merge it manually.
> 
> AFAIK there are no xorg.conf online calculators able to give the needed
> information.
> 
> Phew, good to know, that I should keep my xorg.conf's, resp. to keep
> openSUSE 11.2 :D.
> 
> I hate this new Linux X style that makes Linux for this thing more
> annoying than even Windows is. I'm a tube monitor user, because I prefer
> it to displays, when doing artwork and there are additional issues, if
> you need to set up the frequencies for an old tube monitor, that still
> has got a better quality regarding to colours.
> 
> Bad, that Linux goes this new way, for the X configuration.
> 
> GDM, KDM and frame based desktops, e.g. ION, sometimes need a good
> xorg.conf, whereas DEs like KDE and GNOME sometimes are able to do
> individual settings, anyway, very often with bad limitations.
> 
> I wonder if those Linux coders do really work with their distros.
> 
> So, it's not an E issue, but a modern distribution issue.
> 
> Again, Suse 11.2 might help you, to fix your other Linux.
> 
> - Ralf

PS: In addition this might help you to fix your configurations, but note
that I didn't take care of ION and E ...

spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeis...@builder58)  Fri Mar 12
02:12:40 PST 2010

# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2009-12-17T15:07:50+0100.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <[email protected]>, 2005
# Contact: SaX-User list
<https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users>
#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout[all]"
    Screen         "Screen[0]" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
    Option         "Clone" "off"
    Option         "Xinerama" "off"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    InputDevices      "/dev/gpmdata"
    InputDevices      "/dev/input/mice"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/local"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/URW"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/kwintv"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/CID"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/xtest"
    FontPath        "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
    Option         "ZapWarning" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

  # Driver "kbd" will be disabled unless 'Option "AutoAddDevices"
"off"' 
  # is set in "ServerFlags" section. 
    Identifier     "Keyboard[0]"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option         "Protocol" "Standard"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "de"
    Option         "XkbModel" "microsoftpro"
    Option         "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

  # Driver "mouse" will be disabled unless 'Option "AutoAddDevices"
"off"' 
  # is set in "ServerFlags" section. 
    Identifier     "Mouse[1]"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Buttons" "5"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Name" "ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
    Option         "Vendor" "Sysp"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
    Identifier         "Modes[0]"
    ModeLine     "1152x864" 128.42 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 910
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 100.19 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 809
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 88.50 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 804
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 76.16 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 800
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795
    ModeLine     "1024x600" 77.36 1024 1080 1192 1360 600 601 604 632
    ModeLine     "1024x600" 67.63 1024 1080 1184 1344 600 601 604 629
    ModeLine     "1024x600" 58.10 1024 1072 1176 1328 600 601 604 625
    ModeLine     "1024x600" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622
    ModeLine     "800x600" 60.07 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 632
    ModeLine     "800x600" 53.14 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 629
    ModeLine     "800x600" 45.50 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 625
    ModeLine     "800x600" 38.22 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 622
    ModeLine     "768x576" 55.94 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 607
    ModeLine     "768x576" 48.71 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 604
    ModeLine     "768x576" 41.66 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 600
    ModeLine     "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597
    ModeLine     "640x480" 37.89 640 672 736 832 480 481 484 506
    ModeLine     "640x480" 33.48 640 672 736 832 480 481 484 503
    ModeLine     "640x480" 28.56 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 500
    ModeLine     "640x480" 23.86 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor[0]"
    VendorName     "MEDION"
    ModelName      "MD1998LM"
    UseModes       "Modes[0]"
    DisplaySize     305    230
    HorizSync       29.0 - 98.0
    VertRefresh     50.0 - 120.0
    Option         "DPMS"
    Option         "PreferredMode" "1152x864"
EndSection

Section "Device"

 #BoardName    "Radeon X1200"
 #Driver       "radeonhd"
    Identifier     "Device[0]"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVidia"
    BoardName      "GeForce 7300 SE"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen[0]"
    Device         "Device[0]"
    Monitor        "Monitor[0]"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "DRI"
    Option         "monitor-VGA_1" "Monitor[0]"
 #VendorName   "ATI"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Virtual     3840 1200
        Depth       15
        Modes      "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576"
"640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Virtual     3840 1200
        Depth       16
        Modes      "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576"
"640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Virtual     3840 1200
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576"
"640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Virtual     3840 1200
        Depth       8
        Modes      "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576"
"640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~> cat /media/studio3.3/etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
  DisplaySize   305 230
  HorizSync     29-98
  Identifier    "Monitor0"
  Modelname     "Plug 'n' Play"
  Vendorname    "Plug 'n' Play"
  VertRefresh   50-120
  modeline      "1152x864" 128.42 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 910
  Gamma 1.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
   #Driver         "nv"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth   24
        Modes      "1152x864"
       #Virtual    3840 1200
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection
spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~>


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