It would appear that on Feb 12, Jean-Philippe Monteiro did say:

> I am less of an extremist, you may want to play with Focus, disabling all
> of them.  
 
 I wouldn't mind so much except that for a long time now I can keyboard
 for hours with the only problem being a case of saddle sores from my
 chair... ;-7  But if I wrestle with a mouse pointer for as little as
 5 minutes, my hand starts going numb... (similar problem if I try to
 do much writing by hand, and good gosh lord help me if I need to sew
 a ripped out pair of pants... 

 Anyway anytime I HAVE to put down the keyboard in favor of intensive
 mouse work, I'm unhappy.

I'm not so sure I want to disable all of that. If the window doesn't
get focus I won't be able to type into it... There are only three items
in the focus settings about "sending the mouse" when the focus
changes, and All of them are UNchecked... 

> Trough the bindings file, you can have your menu at-a-key; I don't see
> how you could pre-define where it would pop though... 

Sure do. But I still need the menus as there are two many things for
me to remember a separate one. Like for example the win-ops stuff.
As long as I can have a familiar shortcut pop a windows operations
menu that include a way to maximize, unmaximize, mini^H^H^H^H iconify
I always disable one stroke shortcuts to do those things. (Especially 
<alt>+<F4> which I've fat fingered more times than my sanity will
allow me to remember...) 

> Kwo? Any suggestion?

By the way, I've had a chance to play with e17 today. It's menus
seemed to be slightly better behaved. If I set click to focus the mouse
doesn't have to stay where I'm typing.( The mouse wants to jump to the
newly focused window. And the  menu always opens where the mouse pointer
is. BUT when I open a menu with the keyboard the pointer stays in the
top left corner of the top level open menu while I navigate it with
the cursor keys...

But it looks like they won't let me bypass using a click intensive gui
tool to do the configurations. Sigh! But IF I can get the configs set
my way, I think I'll like it! That is if I can find a way to confirm
logout with the keyboard. I don't want to totally disable logout
confirmation. But I like being able to use <ctrl>+<enter> with e16 Or
the way the current kde scheme lets me hit <Alt>+<L> instead of having
to "click" on the pop-up confirmation dialog box... Ah well Just tell
me that neither Enlightenment, nor the linux distros will ever pull
the plug on e16 as a WM like Kubuntu/kde.org is doing to kde3 and I'll
be happy... 

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|    <o>   <o>       Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
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