On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:26:57 +0800 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > While drunk at the moment (yet again) i think i would contribute to > any user controlled content as would a lot of people. (while not drunk > of course.) People semi-excited about the project would like to show > their support too. And thats the great thing about OSS I believe that > the community gets a say no matter what they do FOR the community! > Maybe its a dream, but its what i hope for. > Toma.
and we can happily add cvs access for those wanting to work on the site! :) > On 8/3/08, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We've tried this about 3 times. Someone comes along and says if we > > have a CMS non-technical people will write articles. We implement a > > CMS. No-one writes articles. We drop the CMS. > > > > If you want to write news releases put them on blogs. Or write a news > > blurb for the front page. If longer articles are put into the wiki > > other people can fix the formatting and the wiki syntax later. > > > > dan > > > > > > On 2-Aug-08, at 1:36 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty wrote: > > > >> All good points, and I definitely agree that having a flat access > >> structure is very nice. > >> Perhaps we can keep it even if we use a CMS? Worth looking into. > >> > >> But, here are some arguments FOR a CMS: > >> > >> 1. We except articles to be written not by devs, but by users. I.E. > >> People who are not technical enough to fiddle with CVS, or even HTML. > >> They are good at writing and they can use a word processor. We > >> shouldn't create a barrier of entry for these people. > >> > >> 2. It automatically provides all the things a website needs. Many of > >> which are lacking in the current site. > >> For example: Search, RSS feeds for posts, flexible templates & styles, > >> wysiwyg editors & previews, taxonomy. > >> Additionally a few CMSes also provide modules for integrating our > >> other systems (wiki, bugs, etc) into the site. > >> > >> 3. Module support. Most big CMSes have support for modules. This > >> means, they have a large library of 3rd party modules already, and its > >> relatively easy to whip up our own. > >> This means we can integrate all our other systems into the main e.org > >> website. We could put the latest wiki articles on the front page, or > >> the highest rated themes from exchange, or the latest CVS commits. > >> Of course, we could write all of these things ourselves and stick 'em > >> into CVS, but having a nice module api definitely helps speed up > >> development. And some of these modules already exist. > >> > >> As far as the wiki being the place for articles, it definitely is the > >> place for how-tos and tutorials, but its no place for news articles, > >> articles on new features (wikis have a very poor sense of time) and > >> articles that just show off EFL & E. > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:47 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:18:23 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > >>> babbled: > >>> > >>> i agree here. i like our fairly flat (and lax) access structure. if > >>> we trust > >>> you to go writing bits of e.org's website - we trust you to write > >>> code - if > >>> that is your skill, or to just know to keep your hands off what you > >>> aren't good > >>> at. people make mistakes and if someone who was given access in > >>> order to do www > >>> goes and starts screwing with code so it breaks - a few reprimands > >>> on the > >>> mailing lists should cure that really fast, and if it doesn't - > >>> access to cvs > >>> can be removed (and will be) as if we can't trust them - why keep > >>> access to www? > >>> > >>> i like our own and flat trust structure. it's simple. it works as > >>> we are not a > >>> massive organisation. it allows or fluid movement and help wherever > >>> it is > >>> needed quickly. it shows we have faith in our fellow humans :) > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> so eventually went back to an old original method. www lives in > >>>>> cvs - u > >>>>> want to work on it, u get cvs access. committing means it auto- > >>>>> updates. if > >>>>> u need to test the php locally setting up a local apache and mod- > >>>>> php, allow > >>>>> symlinks outside of the www doc dir to point to your homedir's > >>>>> cvs checkout > >>>>> of the www site, worsk just fine. it's simple and works. the php > >>>>> is also > >>>>> very simple. the main www site is meant to be simple and > >>>>> relatively static > >>>>> - the wiki, and other sites (trac, bugzilla etc.) are where the > >>>>> dynamic > >>>>> stuff happens... > >>>> > >>>> There is another advantage to keeping the site in CVS: you avoid > >>>> segmenting the community into artificial sub-communities, or > >>>> trying to > >>>> place technical barriers around social structures. There is a flat > >>>> hierarchy of trust, either you've earned it enough to get access or > >>>> you haven't. There is no temptation to give people access to the > >>>> website since it's "only the website", and anyone with CVS access > >>>> should know how interact within the project. > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > >>>> challenge > >>>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > >>>> great prizes > >>>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in > >>>> the world > >>>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > >>> -------------- > >>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > >>> challenge > >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > >>> great prizes > >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in > >>> the world > >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > >> challenge > >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > >> great prizes > >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in > >> the world > >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > > prizes > > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > -- > Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
