On 31/12/2007, Daniel Stonier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tyranny of the majority - I like that! Or like to fight against it anyway!
>
> I love E's philosophy in allowing the user to choose the style they
> want. Too often 'hidden' functionalities become neglected and
> subsequently either impossible or a very inconvenient to change in
> systems that decided to obscure them for simplicity.
>
> On 31/12/2007, Ethan Grammatikidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm sorry to say that my first response to this was "Oh no, not another 
> > blog to keep up with," or words to that effect. The content of that post is 
> > clearly written and quite well thought out, but it would be easier to 
> > discuss the points if they were in 8 to 12 separate bug reports. When 
> > several issues are all put together, only 2 or 3 of them will ever be 
> > discussed! Bug reports also offer the facility to track the resolution of 
> > each issue separately; meaning everyone interested in the issue can easily 
> > see which ones have been fixed & which ones haven't.
> >
> > With all that said, most of the points themselves are very logical. I'll 
> > confine my comments to point 7 and the one paragraph that really bothered 
> > me:
> >
> > > Fight against each useless option. An option that influences "something",
> > > but has no real benefit for the user should be discussed again. It's not
> > > a shame to remove an option that (nearly) nobody uses!
> >
> > One word: NOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo.............
> > I switched to Linux in 1999, feeling very strongly about a couple of 
> > issues. I knew nothing about licenses and the motives behind them, nothing 
> > about the unethical practices considered normal in the software businesses; 
> > what I knew and cared about was that I was expected to use a GUI that was 
> > designed with no thought to what I was comfortable with! I don't know if 
> > you have heard the phrase "tyranny of the majority"? Tyranny of the 
> > majority is what happens when those in control decides that because "hardly 
> > anybody" needs a certain something, nobody needs that something. If "nearly 
> > nobody" uses something, that means that some people do, and chances are 
> > they use it for a good reason. In my case, funnily enough, matters 
> > pertaining to stacking order and focus were a significant part of my hate 
> > for Windows in 1999. I was delighted when I found I could have window focus 
> > entirely independent of the stacking order, amongst other issues...
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:54:11 +0100
> > Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Since the last months I noticed that E17 is becoming really stable from
> > > the technical side. Thanks for this great window manager!
> > >
> > > But on the other side I noticed that the configuration usability is
> > > sometimes a nightmare. The topics are sometimes to big to write them
> > > into a single bug report. Because of this I decided to write a blog
> > > entry about E17 usability. If you like we could discuss below the
> > > article or here about my points. These are only my two cents, but I
> > > think maybe someone else could have the same problems.
> > >
> > > Here is the link to my blog:
> > > http://andreasvolz.wordpress.com/
> > >
> > > And here a link to this special article:
> > > http://andreasvolz.wordpress.com/2007/12/30/e17-window-manipulation-and-configuration-nightmare/
> > >
> > > I don't like to flame anyone with my ideas. I hope you see it as useful
> > > help. Currently I'm to busy in my job to participate more in E17
> > > development. But perhaps I'm able to help with some usability articles.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Andreas
> > >
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