On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:24:01 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Am Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:13:18 +0900 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The
> Rasterman):
> 
> > On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:42:56 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> > 
> > > Am Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:56:50 +0200 schrieb Andreas Volz:
> > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > currently it's only possible to place modules in the panels. I
> > > > remember the time when it was possible to place modules free in
> > > > size and position on the desktop background. This was a great
> > > > feature.
> > > > 
> > > > - Why was this feature removed?
> > > > 
> > > > - Will it come back?
> > > 
> > > Why was this bug closed without any explanation?
> > > 
> > > http://bugzilla.enlightenment.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170
> > > 
> > > Perhaps I'm not able to find the option to place modules on the
> > > desktop. Or is this a not desired feature? Please give at least a
> > > short explanation. Thanks!
> > 
> > it's not being added back because it's generally a silly feature
> > (gadgets get covered by windows all the time) and no developer wants
> > to spend time on it as the general view among the developers is that
> 
> What is the difference to the desktop icons like trash, home folder and
> mount points? They're also covered by windows all the time. I don't
> think that one could argument that way. I could for example imagine
> that one screen holds all my nice and useful desktop modules. If I open
> no window there I've no problems. Don't assume how anybody uses a
> desktop environment. :-)
> 
> > it is a dubiously useful feature. patches accepted.
> 
> This is good to read. In the past I waited for this feature to come
> back. Now I know that it'll not come back "from alone". My knowledge of
> the EFL is growing more and more, but I never hacked in E itself. Are
> there any experienced E developers that like this feature too and will
> spend work for a solution?

NB: in theory gadcon (the new gadget system) CAN do this - you need to 1. add a
"general 2d layout handler" (the current is 1d), and 2. provide a "gadcon" on
the desktop. currently the only thing providing gadcons is the shelf. i
designed gadcon to be much more generic than the old gadman - so in theory
gadcons can go into popups, menus, titlebars, the desktop etc. BUT - i just
don't want to sink the time and effort into a 2d layout + gadcon provision for
the desktop.

as per my other mail- just because gadcon doesn't do this doesn't mean modules
can't go and create "Desktop" elements anyway. :)

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The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本)

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