On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:20:09 +0200 Stephan Wezel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:03:07 -0400 > schrieb Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Monday, 14 August 2006, at 12:08:06 (+0900), > > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > > anyway - we have been living on caosity's cvs for a while now - but > > > we are killing it (sorry kainx!) > > > > > > so its time to finally bite the bullet and dredge up the issue of us > > > needing servers again. > > > > What we really need is anoncvs mirrors. We need systems that we can > > point "anoncvs.enlightenment.org" to. A nice round-robin DNS should > > solve the load problem quite nicely. > > > > > here is what i think we need: > > > > > > 1. devel "cvs" server + future web server (for downloads too of official > > > tarballs etc.) > > > 2. an anonymous "cvs" server and possibly second download mirror. > > > > > > so 2 systems really. > > > > The developer CVS server is doing acceptably, is it not? > > > > We are working on obtaining another server for the E project to have > > as its very own. Hopefully that will pan out. > > > > > i hear that svn is significantly less load for anonymous access - > > > even developer - who has experience with this server-side? can you > > > confirm or deny? i would consider a possible move to svn if we can > > > keep our history from cvs. > > > > It's not true. SVN requires a lot more overhead (including Apache > > with SVN and DAV modules), uses a BDB backend (you remember your love > > of BDB, right?), and requires DOUBLE the amount of disk space for a > > checkout. Yes, I said double. Furthermore, branching and tagging > > don't really exist for SVN (it uses "copies" which, while they may be > > zero overhead on the server, are murder on the checkout). And last I > > checked, you could not keep your history. > That's not true that SVN needs lot more overhead. At least if you compile > subversion from source you can disable unneeded features e.g. apache and > java-bindings support. On gentoo you can enable/disable following features > when emerging subversion: apache2, bash-completion, berkdb, subversion has > also a flat file db support(fsfs which is standard when creating a subversion > repo) java (afaik only bindings support) nls > perl (afaik only bindings support) > python (afaik only bindings support) > zlib > emacs > nowebdav (no webdav support via the neon lib) > ruby (afaik only bindings support) > > so you can strip down the requirements to the minimum if you want. > Apache + Webdav is only needed if you want the access to the repos via webdav. > > there are now at least one cvs2svn conversion tool with which you can keep > your history of cvs. ok- but what about runtime performance? doe svn use "50%" of the system load (ram/cpu/whatever) compare to cvs? 20% 150%? 200%? what? a rough ballpark thing is what i'd like to know from people with experience of going form cvs to svn or svn to cvs - will it make our "anon cvs serves" handle more users with the same src being shipped given the same resources? if more - about how much more? > Stephan > > > > > CVS is the devil we know. There's really nothing we need it to do > > that it doesn't do. I see no compelling reason to move. > > > > Michael > > > > > - -- > Ein Ring, sie zu knechten, sie alle zu finden, > Ins Dunkel zu treiben und ewig zu binden > Im Lande Mordor, wo die Schatten drohn. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iQCVAwUBROBOWbGRxCnHbavTAQLjTwQAr10Ovue2H7BuOIeAjgjCPWffOlO8N5Dc > xdBbu2jP6mNh/049lOf4WWnfI4rfYjB+UmsYXwOH+xv0NKKjUKtdSw/avjMArWAB > FvLnok12WDRVfCi6/DP8hn2kW0Ggfa5TIxfzIO+b+GmLHYVxcsXcL2lEVNX1sfKk > sRNZIyRCbjk= > =zbwF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
