On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:16:17 +1100 Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> J. Erik Heinz wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >phriedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> words > > on 18.01.2006 - 17:22 (+0100 Zulu-Time): > > > > > >>On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:12:12 +0100 > >>"J. Erik Heinz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I want to buy a powerbook. My reasearched about OS X came to the > >>>result, that is possible to run an X Server on it. With this > >>>possibility it should be possible to run e on it. > >>> > >>>Does someone have already experice in this aspect? > >>> > >>> > >>No, e is the reason I use linux on my Powerbook for. > >> *scr* > >> > >> > >Sounds good. Normaly I would love to use FreeBSD or Linux on the > >Powerbook, but I dont know if all the hardware is supported, ie > >Airport Card (WLAN), Suspend Mode, etc. > > > >Would be nice if you could give a feedback aboout this. > > > > > Firstly, Enlightenment works *flawlessly* on my Powerbook ( in Linux ). > I was quite amazed. > I posted some evas benchmarks compiled with various versions of gcc-3 > and gcc-4 to the list a couple of months back - search in the archives > if you're interested. With the EXA drivers ( see below ), you can use > the xrender engine for Enlightenment. This was previously a *LOT* faster > than software, but for some reason the EXA drivers in the current > release of xorg-x11 have slowed down considerably. It was good while it > lasted :) Note that the xrender engine isn't recommended yet anyway ( > not complete ). actually the xrender engine is complete. it does have some minor rendering bugs (u'll see them on entry boxes in dialogs like with sliders and frame titles) but it is complete. it is not recommended because most drivers do not acclerte xrender at all - or so abysmally it mayaswell not be accelarated and often they can cause x lockups in the drivers (not e's fault) so it's not recommended > Hardware support for Powerbooks is excellent :) > > My TiBook works *flawlessly* other than the occasional cursor corruption > when resuming from suspending, but this is a minor issue, and probably > also affects other Radeon users. I don't get any lock-ups at all on this > system. The only thing missing from the kernel is stable pre-emption > support, which I'm told is evil anyway. > > My Radeon ( R250 ) works very well. DRI in particular is very good, and > I've got the EXA drivers working for accelerating compositing. EXA is > promising, but needs work ( generally ... it's not a PPC issue ). > > The old airport cards have been supported for *ages*. Support for the > new 'extreme' airport cards has arrived recently. > > Suspend-to-ram works flawlessly ( minus that occasional cursor > corruption I mentioned ), however this consumes power while 'suspended'. > I've mucked around a *little* with Software Suspend 2, but haven't > gotten it going yet. I probably should have another go - it was a while > ago. This method lets you save a suspended state on your hard disk ( eg > in a swap file ), and then power off completely, so you don't use the > battery at all. Other power management stuff works flawlessly - changing > the CPU speed, and the battery monitor. There's no temperature sensor > support on my TiBook. > > I have had some issues with endianess stuff with my sound card and > libmad, but that seems to have sorted itself out now. > > The PCMCIA slot works, as does the DVD burner. > > The FireWire port also works well :) I've got a 200GB firewire drive, > with some stuff in reiser3 format, and some stuff in Apple's hpfs > format. I've also got a Canon MV600i digital video, and capture via the > firewire port works flawlessly. > > Other cool things that work are the function keys to alter LCD brightnes > & volume, eject button, power button ( to suspend ). > > So in short: yes the hardware is completely supported. Actually ... let > me qualify that ... *MY* hardware is completely supported. If you get a > newer Powerbook with a more recent video card, you may run into > problems. Support for the ATI R300 chip and above is still experimental, > but I believe ( having read posts in the Gentoo on PPC forums ) that > people have DRI working with these cards. Do *NOT* buy a Powerbook with > an nVidia, as you won't get hardware accelerated OpenGL, or compositing, > or probably a heap of other cool stuff. There is no open source driver > for nVidia cards that does this, and nVidia don't provide binaries for > PPC Linux. > > Another interesting point is that you can run Mac-On-Linux which works > like VMWare, but without the need for a license ( ie Mac-On-Linux is > open source ). It works flawlessly on my system - I can boot a VM from > my other partition where I have OS-X installed, and it runs at about 75% > native speed, but without hardware accelerated OpenGL. > > If you don't need to run any proprietary stuff, then a Powerbook is a > great machine to run Linux on. I'm moving to a Turion ( mobile Athlon64 > ) system because I need a Perl debugger, and the only one that doesn't > suck ( Komodo ) is only available for x86 Linux. There is a OS-X > version, but installing all my other requirements ( Gtk2 and friends ) > is a *big* headache under OS-X. Also, Komodo isn't the fastest app on > the planet, and I'd *hate* to see it run in OS-X under Mac-On-Linux ... > this is only a 1Ghz system after all ... > > FYI, lspci -v on my system gives: > > 00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 1.5 AGP > Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 > Capabilities: [80] AGP version 1.0 > > 00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf > [FireGL 9000] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) > Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] > Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, > IRQ 48 > Memory at b8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > I/O ports at f0000400 [size=256] > Memory at b0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] > Expansion ROM at f1000000 [disabled] [size=128K] > Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0 > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > > 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 1.5 PCI > Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 > > 0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo Mac I/O (rev 03) > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16 > Memory at 80000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] > > 0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB (prog-if > 10 [OHCI]) > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 27 > Memory at a0002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > > 0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB (prog-if > 10 [OHCI]) > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 28 > Memory at a0001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > > 0001:10:1a.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus > Controller (rev 02) > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 58 > Memory at a0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > Bus: primary=10, secondary=11, subordinate=14, sec-latency=176 > Memory window 0: 90000000-9ffff000 (prefetchable) > Memory window 1: f3000000-f33ff000 > I/O window 0: 00001000-00008fff > I/O window 1: 00009000-000091ff > 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001 > > 0002:24:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 1.5 Internal PCI > Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 > > 0002:24:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW323 (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) > Subsystem: Agere Systems FW323 > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 40 > Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 > > 0002:24:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth GMAC (Sun > GEM) (rev 01) > Flags: bus master, 66MHz, slow devsel, latency 16, IRQ 41 > Memory at f5200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M] > Expansion ROM at f5100000 [disabled] [size=1M] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. 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