Yepp. The idea about the cost didn't came up to my mind =) Interesting, how much will the Visa be?
On 7/28/05, Ricardo Birmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apart from the gpu, opengl, etc.. dependency issues that have been > mentioned, there is a HUGE difference between E and Visa that can not be > left unsaid: E is free! > > remember? "free as in freedom".... By looking at these screenshots (from > Visa) the feeling I get is...." oh, well, here comes another ms windows...", > but i still remember what I said when I first saw Enlightenment: > "WOOOOOOW!!!!!" and when I first saw E17 using true transparency through > xorg: "WOOOOOOW!!!!!!". I am currently using E16 and it's been a few months > since i last saw E17 and I can already guess what I am going to say when I > see it's new improvements....... You really should look at E17 again - it has changed a lot! I was using E16.7 for quite a while (half a year or so) and tried to use E17 for several times, but it was too unstable. Now, i believe, i really got better! (If no new bugs appeareed since my last checkout) It is usable - even though it takes quite a while to create eaps, backgrounds, tune modules etc... > > Microsoft cannot afford to create a complete design revolution... their > users would be lost.... and if there is one fear Microsoft does NOT want > it's users to lose, is the fear of facing new things. > > One last thing: common sense says that new software require better hardware, > which is really quite a stupid way of understanding the whole thing and I am > sure that this is going to change some day, I can only hope that it changes > soon enough..... > > Ricardo > > > > On 28/07/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:05:44 +0400 Kit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > Surely, everyone've heard about today's Windows Vista (aka Longhorn > > > client) Beta Testing start... I've taken a look at some screenshots > > > (e.g. here: > http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60202) > > > and one thing is to be said: > > > In comparison to Windows Vista, with all it's developers and designers > > > teams, closed source, massive usage of M$ development technologies - > > > E17 ROCKS =) > > > > thanks - but we are a long way off being as usable as vista. and we do > much much > > much less. :( > > > > > All the visual stuff i saw at these screenshot is quite a long ago > > > available in E17... And for most of them, i think E17 does much > > > better, even in using video cards - M$ Vista reuqires DirectX > > > 9-accelerated hardware, and E17 does not need more, than OpenGL! > > > > e17 doesn't even require opengl. that's optional and simply not used by > e17 > > itself. you have to hack the code to enable it. all you see is rendered > with the > > cpu only - you need very little more than a basic 2d accelerated x server. > no 3d > > required at all. > > > > > I'm not gonna to compare the WM to OS - but as to desing, Vista is a > > > bit late, don't you thing so? > > > > the difference is vista has ms behind it. we have just a few of ourselves. > i > > think we all pine for the day we could work on e17 fulltime and we'd have > maybe > > a snowballs chance in hell then. as it stands we work in weekends/evenings > when > > we find time. we move slowly. very slowly. > > > > > My congratulation to E17 dev. team! Don't stop =) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September > > > 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & > QA > > > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September > > 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
