On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:44:01 +0100 Kim Woelders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
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(B> Rodolfo M. Raya wrote:
(B> > On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 12:17, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
(B> >
(B> >>/it is quite possible the problem is enlightenment. i have seen java vs. e
(B> >>interaction issues often enough before - mainly because the devs (ie me at
(B> >the>time me) didn't use a single java app - had none installed and couldn't
(B> >be>bothered installing some as it was a pain to do so. its a tough thing to
(B> >debug>app and wm interaction -ESPECIALLY when the app goes through many
(B> >layers of>abstraction (app codes -> java -> swing/awt -> xlib and finally
(B> >asynchronous>messages and events coming back)./
(B> >>
(B> > There are two problems:
(B> >
(B> > 1) Enlightenment does not remember windows settings correctly. At least
(B> > it doesn't work with Eclipse's dialogues.
(B> >
(B> I don't quite buy that. The window size is a property of the window. E
(B> doesn't remember that but determines it by reading the window
(B> attributes. This happens every time a window is mapped, and the WM is
(B> not supposed to remember anything from the last time it was mapped.
(B> I'd suggest either a bug or failure to ignore silly values in the window
(B> size hints or ConfigureRequest handling.
(B
(Byes. it's quite possible e DOE remember - sets the size then eclipse happily
(Bgoes and RESIZES the window to some stupid size thanks to not calculating the
(Bpack properly. e simply obeys the clients request then for a resize as it
(Bshould. i have seen this before.
(B
(B> > 2) Eclipse does not call the appropriate pack() and setSize() routines.
(B> > I know this is a bug in Eclipse because I write applications using SWT
(B> > (Eclipse's tool kit) and dialog sizes are OK only if the correct methods
(B> > are called.
(B> >
(B> >
(B> >>/it's a royal pita :( but there are many badly written x programs and
(B> >toolkits>too. many wm's have "hacks" where they disobey icccm just to make
(B> >certain broken>apps work - but these "breaks" then may impact other properly
(B> >written apps>later... it's a real pain./
(B> >>
(B> >
(B> > It's a pain and I hate been forced to use GNOME because I need to work
(B> > Eclipse. Enlightenment is faster and cleaner, but I can't use it for the
(B> > time being.
(B> >
(B> I would be happy to fix this problem, but I'd like a test case that
(B> doesn't look like I would need a week to get it installed :)
(B>
(B> /Kim
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