> > As for the intent of my email, well, it really wasnt aimed at
> > anyone in particular. Its just we always say "we dont support
> > this... we dont support that". And you guys wonder why people wont
> > use our software?

First off, people DO use our software.  Stating otherwise is
ridiculous because it's just not true.

Secondly, we don't WANT people using Entrance and e17 and other things
that are under heavy and active development.  That's the whole
freaking point!  People shouldn't use it.  If you can't write a patch,
you shouldn't be using Entrance.  And if you can, you should be able
to solve problems yourself.

It's not rude, or harsh, or unfair, or any of the things people
typically whine about.  It's a test.  A rite of passage, if you will.
If you can make it work on your own, you have proven that you have the
ability to help, and that's great.  We encourage those people to do
so, as evidenced by the responses raster gave to shorne's patches.

If, however, you cannot get it to work on your own, you've failed the
test.  You don't appear to have the ability (or determination, or
patience, or any of the other things required to deal with this stuff)
to help, so we don't have time to babysit you.  Thus, you have two
options:  (1) Give up, or (2) Find a non-developer who's willing to
help you out.  People like Ben and Phil are often willing to help new
users get things working, and that's a great help to the developers
(as much as it annoys me sometimes...*grin*) because it saves them
time that they can then spend on coding (or...*cough*...responding to
rude e-mails...).

> > If something has a lot of potential and its main developers dont
> > want to improve it or let others help, then at the end of the day
> > thats totally up to them.

Anyone who believes that JeopardE doesn't want to improve Entrance or
let others help is smoking something cheap.

> > But dont you think everyone will lose a lot if this piece of code
> > that had a lot of potential didnt "want" to be developed and
> > pursued?

See above.

> > I think this would add to my story http://www.bash.org/?152037

If someone falls for that, that person is a sucker.

Michael

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