J'aime, thanks for your perspective.  I'm still trying to understand: does
the master of the mobile apps work against Hawthorn?  You say they work
against Ginkgo, so how could they be broken against Hawthorn?  You
mentioned cherry-picking, is that picking changes to the mobile app, or to
the server?

--Ned.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:41 AM J'aime Ohm <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with Lupus and Ned that it is best to stay on latest for mobile.
> Changes to the API are generally minor or nonexistent between versions and
> are easy to cherrypick. I'm running master against a Ficus and a Ginkgo
> instance and will be running against a Hawthorne instance when it's ready
> for me in the next couple of months. My situation is similar to Pierre's,
> except I'm running master against even older backend(s).
>
> I agree with Pierre, the cherrypicking is annoying. I've found the changes
> are minor though, for avoiding a change. To avoid having people cherrypick,
> the mobile team might consider keeping small API changes behind feature
> flags for a platform release or two.
>
> Some reasons to stay on master include...
> - older versions of an app often don't run as-is, even if the version of
> Xcode, OS, Swift, and Android Studio are named, because of changes by Apple
> that affect this and are uncontrollable
> - it's more natural to contribute PRs if you're testing and running
> against master
> - like Lupus says, security updates
> - other maintenance updates that may be time sensitive, like support for
> new devices or new operating systems or new requirements by the stores
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 1:14:15 PM UTC-8, Lupus Furyo wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ned,
>> I was replying from my gmail inbox, I did not see Pierre's last reply
>> regarding usability. My remark was of general type, especially concerning
>> Sec of an App. Mobile apps get updated too often due to known concerns.
>> Perhaps, this is why Marco does not like tagging Open edX App with
>> named.releases. Anyways, please ignore my remark regarding this matter.
>> Pierre has already elaborated his question and suggestion thoroughly.
>>
>> Best, L.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:30 AM Ned Batchelder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Lupus, can you explain why that is?  Did you see Pierre's experience
>>> that the latest mobile app didn't work with Hawthorn?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --Ned.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:48 AM Lupus Furyo <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In case of mobile clients, generally, it is always better to stick to
>>>> master. This does not concern Open edX only.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:35 PM Ned Batchelder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked Marco Morales about this, and he said, "I'm not convinced it
>>>>> is all that helpful to pin or tag these specifically? We publicize named
>>>>> platform release dates, mobile release version dates (with github tags).
>>>>> I'd rather people stay closer to master for mobile (which they generally
>>>>> do) rather than tracking all breaking changes across the two."
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think of that?
>>>>>
>>>>> --Ned.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:34 PM Ned Batchelder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe we will be tagging them for Ironwood, yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Ned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:55 AM Robert Gérin-Lajoie <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ned, will you tag the mobile apps (iOS and Android) with Ironwood?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mardi 8 janvier 2019 15:52:52 UTC-5, Ned Batchelder a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The next release of the Open edX software is "Ironwood."  We are
>>>>>>>> getting ready to start the release process.  The first step is 
>>>>>>>> creating the
>>>>>>>> open-release/ironwood.master branches in the appropriate repos.  I 
>>>>>>>> plan to
>>>>>>>> do this on Friday, January 18th.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anything merged by that date will be part of Ironwood; anything
>>>>>>>> merged after that date will have to wait for the next release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A week or two after the branches are created, we will have a beta
>>>>>>>> for everyone to test.  Then after a few weeks of community testing,
>>>>>>>> Ironwood will be officially released.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns, respond to this thread, or
>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Ned.
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