Adrian, I took the liberty of applying Ron's minor suggested edits for the
non-normative text, and updated the issue.

-cary

On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 2:06 PM Ron Brender <ron.bren...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Adrian et al,
>
> Re 1: OK, not bad. I would tweak a bit farther:
>  . replace "they are implemented" with "access is implemented"
>  . replace "both" with "programmed constraints, including".
>
> So the results reads:
>
> [Non-normative] *Object-oriented languages like Pascal and Objective-C
> have properties, which are variable- or data member-like entities of units
> or classes. Syntactically, properties can be accessed like variables and
> data members, however,access is implemented by invoking user-defined or
> compiler-generated subprograms, allowing programmed constraints, including
> read-only and write-only semantics.*
>
> Re 4: Good. I might have used "IP" but what you did is OK too.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 1:02 PM Adrian Prantl <apra...@apple.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is my suggestion for (1) and (4).
>> I tried to simplify Ron’s wording a bit. Ron, let me know if you think I
>> went to far :-)
>>
>> -- adrian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2025, at 2:15 PM, Cary Coutant via Dwarf-discuss <
>> dwarf-discuss@lists.dwarfstd.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Adrian and Ron. I went ahead and applied the grammatical changes
>> Ron suggested (2, 3, 5), but left the more substantive ones (1, 4) for
>> Adrian to address.
>>
>> -cary
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 8:59 AM Ron Brender <ron.bren...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mmore suggested changes are attached...
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 12:46 PM Adrian Prantl via Dwarf-discuss <
>>> dwarf-discuss@lists.dwarfstd.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is the latest revision:
>>>>
>>>> - Removed Pascal-specific wording from text in 5.19 (field -> data
>>>> member)
>>>> - added updates for Appendix A
>>>> - updated Section 7.32 for type signature computation.
>>>>
>>>> -- adrian
>>>>
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