On 2009.08.25 15:33:57 -0700, Eric Anholt wrote:
> > However, the problem remains that KMS gets the output wrong, in ways that 
> > clearly X does not. Eric - it's clearly not just Mac Mini and my 
> > experimental machine that have problems, but also a Macbook 2.1.
> > 
> > I wonder why the Intel KMS logic doesn't look at which output was driven 
> > before it got invoked. Instead, it seems to want to try to detect 
> > everything from scratch, even though we should be able to assume that if 
> > you boot from BIOS (or EFI, for that matter), the current state of the 
> > graphics pipeline is likely meaningful.
> 
> In my experience, the BIOS setup doesn't reflect what outputs should be
> used at runtime, and certainly not the correct configuration of the
> enabled outputs.  For example, if we went to this, the giant monitor
> attached to my laptop that I actually look at would go unused.
> 

yeah, normally VBIOS startup just needs or only can driver one pipe, so
we don't have any pre knowledge except detect everything.

> > And clearly distros are trying to enable this. Which means that this is 
> > getting way more important to solve.
> 
> Yes, please open a bug on bugs.freedesktop.org and set severity=critical
> -- the people working on modesetting should pick it up and take a look
> at it.
> 

we already have some mac relate bugs open, but please report on it so we
do have people with hardware to try and response. We have recently got a
MacBook, yakui is looking after the modesetting issue on it.

> For some of the DDC bugs, David Müller has an interesting-looking patch
> to parse the BIOS's tables describing what DDC pin is used for VGA on
> 852, though it looks like it should be usable on much more.  I was
> hoping the modesetting guys would review it and ack, but no response so
> far.
> 

We should also have floating patch on that, hope we'll prepare and cleanup
the patches for mac soon.

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