On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 17:31 +0200, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 17:12 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 17:05 +0200, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 16:08 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 15:56 +0200, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 08:53 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Jerome 
> > > > > > Glisse<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Corollary the TTM priority stuff is i believe a wrong idea
> > > > > > > for radeon (could be usefull for others GPU but i don't have
> > > > > > > such feeling). So i would like to be able to disable it and
> > > > > > > move the knowledge in radeon kernel driver, here is my thinking
> > > > > > > on that :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > domain provided by userspace is a tip given to the kernel
> > > > > > > Then the kernel driver will be the one to choose where to
> > > > > > > put the buffer. For instance userspace can create an object
> > > > > > > in GTT space because this object will routinely accessed
> > > > > > > by the CPU, but at one point the GPU might need to write to
> > > > > > > it and most of the time we really want to put all buffer
> > > > > > > the GPU write to into VRAM. So kernel could move the object
> > > > > > > to VRAM for doing the rendering.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any thoughts on that ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The whole problem with aperture sizing and when to flush
> > > > > > optimally is quite messy when things are just hints. Maybe
> > > > > >  you need to redesign CS with stream break points, I think
> > > > > > Thomas did or was thinking about this for Openchrome.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nothings change for counting how memory a cs needs, it makes
> > > > > the code simpler as there is only one domain and its up to
> > > > > ddx to properly ask for vram on object which are dst. So
> > > > > accounting for gtt/vram use is the same, code is just simpler.
> > > > 
> > > > The way it's done now, the kernel can transparently put a source BO in
> > > > GTT if there's no space in VRAM. How would that be handled with your
> > > > idea?
> > > 
> > > Same, kernel can decide to put things in vram or gtt, domain given
> > > by userspace is just a hint,
> > 
> > That could be a problem for vertex/index buffers on big endian, as the
> > VAP_CNTL_STATUS byte-swapping bits are ineffective for buffers in VRAM.
> 
> Kernel does know it's on ppc and it can force vertex/index buffer to be
> in GTT.

That would preclude userspace from being able to use them in VRAM at
all. Please not.


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