On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Matt Sealey wrote:


Someone explain to me why an organised boycott of SiS graphics chips
would somehow ENCOURAGE them to help?

If all other things have been tried why not ?

At least the boycott also makes sure that people who follow it don't have hardware we can't write drivers for.

                     best

                       Vladimir Dergachev

PS Is ODW fanless ? Just curious..


Reducing their sales means they have a vat of new excuses for not
supporting you.

--
Matt Sealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Manager, Genesi, Developer Relations


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I'm rather interested in starting a project to reverse
engineer these blasted chips, but I'm somewhat more inclined
to start a boycott of them instead.

For reverse engineering, I *think* the DLL has an EULA that
doesn't let you do any sort of peeking into it, so for legal
reasons, we might not be able to go that way.  If anyone has
more insight into that, it would be welcomed.

If there is no easier option, then I was considering just
making a FreeDOS-based system and hitting the hardware
directly.  I used to do that with old video chips, long long
ago when I programmed for DOS in Pascal...

Hey Benjamin,

I have one of these myself and I have tried looking up on reverse
engineering the windows xp driver. However I have found it
very hard
to do so. The driver dll is stripped of all opengl function
symbols,
and exports only symbols necessary to comply with the ICD
architecture.

OpenGL drivers on windows are written accordingly to the ICD
architecture, which has no open documentation out there.
After hearing
with microsoft a license for a ICD development kit costs
5000 dollars,
and one must have a valid need for it!

Do have any plans on making an effort reversing the SiS315?


/Cenk

On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 12:14:55PM -0400,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've found myself in the unfortunate ownership of many of these
pitiful SiS315-based cards and boards with onboard SiS
video.  I may
be interested in reverse-engineering, as I rather like
that sort of
tedious work.
however, after seeing as much as I have seen from these
short-sighted
companies, I think an organized boycott of SiS would be more
effective for getting our hands on specs, or even a closed-source
driver.

their chipset quality is already extremely lacking, and they will
have a really hard time beating VIA on, well,
anything...and VIA is
starting to release their stuff open-source!  SiS doesn't
have much to bargain with.

I will help how I can...

-Benjamin Vander Jagt





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