On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 05:33:51AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, David Dawes wrote:
> 
> >>------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-07-11 06:30 -------
> >>So why this bug is closed? This is METABUG      
> >
> >It is closed because it is neither a bug report or a submission, and is
> >irrelevant to anyone tracking bugs for a release.  This type of stuff
> >belongs in your wiki.
> 
> I totally agree here.  People need to stop abusing bugzilla as a 
> mailing list or wiki substitute.  Bugzilla is for tracking 
> defects, not for following the development of a driver or driver 
> feature for 12 months through to completion.  The whole concept 
> of a "METABUG" whatever that is, is flawed.

I can concede that the Wiki can be a better place for this sort of
things, but bear in mind that the Wiki has not always been around, and
definetely wasn't around when this specific bug was opened.

> Create a mailing list for mach64-dri, or discuss it here please.  
> Another similar bug is the Radeon IGP DRI bug report which has 
> gone way out of hand IMHO and turned into a huge neverending 
> mailing list substitute and/or web based tech support forum.
> 
> http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314
> 
> That's just rediculous bugzilla abuse.  I'm closing that one out
> too, and asking people to continue their endless discussion on
> the mailing lists, as it is equally abusive of bugzilla as the 
> Mach64 DRI "metabug".
> 
> Please use dri-users and/or dri-devel for such discussions, not 
> bugzilla.

I fail to understand how these bugs qualify as "abusive" behavior!
Although you take it as flawed concept the fact remains that "metabugs"
are widely used in several other open-source projects. Perhaps the
concept doesn't fit your or David's view of what the bugzilla database
should be - I'm fine with that -, but from that to "abusive" goes a
_great_ distance, Mike. It's not a black and white world we're living in
- some people use mailing list as a bug database, while other do the
opposite - so don't blame people for using gray.

Anyway, I invite anybody interested to copy the relevant pieces of
information in those bugs to the Wiki (or just make a link and start
from there). I don't know exactly what's the status of the Wiki's email
notification mechanism, but I can look into that.

Jose Fonseca


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