Kevin E Martin wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 09:41:17AM -0800, Ian Romanick wrote:
> > > > > > If not, what's the prognosis?  Is it in the works and just
> > > > > > gonna take some time, or are there other issues such as
> > > > > > documentation availability?
> > > > >
> > > > > There was some (brief) talk about this on the developer chat on
> > > > > Monday.  Work is being done to get Radeon 8500 cards up to the
> > > > > level of original Radeons, then work on T&L support will move
> > > > > forward.
> > >
> > > Just to clarify.  TG is supporting Keith Whitwell's work for T&L support
> > > for the Radeon I (7500 and earlier radeon based cards).  The R200 (found
> > > on the 8500) is a newer 3D core, and we have no committed plans for that
> > > chipset at this time.
> >
> > Ok, I looked back at the log to make sure I wan't losing my mind.  I saw
> > your comments about Keith's work at TG.  Here is the comment that I was
> > refering to, though:
> >
> > <kem> jens: i'm just trying to get the 8500 up to the point that it works as
> > well as the currently radeon code -- not focusing on t&l at all yet
> >
> > So, it looks like both Kevin and Keith are doing some Radeon work, albeit
> > coming from different angles.
> 
> Exactly.  In my spare time, I'm bringing up the 8500 to the level of the
> pre-T&L Radeon code.  It's very slow going since my spare time is
> limited due to a heavy workload and some upcoming deadlines.

And Keith is providing the first T&L driver based on the Radeon I
chipset.  Both of these projects are important precursers to a 8500
based T&L driver--however, no one has stepped up to provide the
development or funding for that project, yet.

Perhaps this question could be answer in our new FAQ.  I've seen it
frequently.

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