> From: Carl Busjahn
> 
> I have to disagree.  If people are really concered about performance 
> they should be using Linux anyway.  What David said is also 
> true.  I'm 
> not going to reccomend a company that doesn't support Linux.  We also 
> know that Online games require good bandwidth, and the Linux tcp/ip 
> stack just tears up anything you can get from Microsoft.  Linux could 
> EASILY become the de facto gaming operating system.

Games, games, games - the world seems to know that this is the real and only
3D.

Let me tell you that there are many more things were 3D can be important:
- web design (Gimp and alikes)
- mechanical CAD (AutoCAD was one of the first apllications ported to Linux)
- cinema rendering (Hello Daryll, how does your render farm do?)
- visualisation (VRML)
- scientific works (ever seen a SuSE package cover?)
- QUAKE. *grin*

Today i have seen a few folks comparing the open sourced drivers for the ATI
with the closed source drivers from nVidia. Let me say, that nVidia is not
the only one trying to play in the higher level of 3D computing for Linux.

[ads on]
If you have a look into the (german?) October issue of iX 
you will find the FireGL4 mentioned. And it scored pretty impressive 
on Linux compared to its "opponent" on the Windows side.
[ads off]

Yes, its a closed driver. But i.e. a digital movie company that gets 
a problem cant wait for ages until there will be an open source developer
that will care for their specific problem. The truth is that servicing
a real business needs a serious business as a serving party.

I have seen the days, where the test suites for such drivers were made
up of a few XFree 2D programs, like the xcalc program. It must be obvious
to the "deep in" Linux professional that this is no longer state of the
art. There are so numerous BIG packages availabel or in advanced progress
that you will hardly take xcalc for testing just to the lack of your time.
Anyways, if even one person talks back that there is a specific problem
with some simple application then a fix is on the web/ftp page sooner 
than the word about this problem will spread. You can verify yourselves.

I drive my private Linux box with an old S3 board. No 3D but the safety
of a stable and reliable driver. This behaviour is considered by me as
a result of the drivers age and the amount of testers in this time.

I have to conclude, 3D on Linux is an old story. Professionals do like
Linux but Linux is still not 3D mainstream. Anyways there are companys
that make business out of the situation nowadays while projects like
XFree86 do make their "deal" in the 2D lower end.

The only question that i do have, how, when and to which side(s) 
will the resistive mainstream (=gaming + what else?) segment
finally collapse if it ever will decide to collapse?

Regards Alex.
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