On 2/16/26 14:37, Matt Coster wrote:
> On 16/02/2026 11:38, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> On 2/16/26 11:58, Matt Coster wrote:
>>> On 16/02/2026 10:11, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>>
>>> We're currently trying to force this issue to reproduce on hardware we
>>> have on hand; we'd like to see it fixed properly as much as anyone.
>>
>> Yeah, no worries, I never doubted that. But getting things properly fixed
>> can mean "revert, fix, reapply" when it comes to regressions in Linux --
>> which is something that should not be seen as something bad, as Linus said
>> himself (see below)!
>>
>>> From our side at least, I don't believe this is a regression at all.
>> In the end what matters is: some change afaics caused systems to not work
>> anymore that used to be working -- that makes it a regression my the Linux
>> kernels standards. And those by the same standards must be fixed, ideally
>> quickly. Find a few quotes on that from Linus below that explains this
>> better. 
> I feel like I should reiterate that the commit we're talking about
> reverting is fundamental to support for one of the only two platforms
> currently supported.

That might or might not be relevant, see the "back and forth" section
from the Linus quotes.

> And that the changes to add "support" (just
> bindings and DT) for the affected Renesas platforms came several months
> *after* this.

Ohh? That might change things then. I relied on the info from Geert and
Marek – and would be glad if you guys could sort this out, as you are
the experts here (and I already got myself way deeper involved then I
wanted to).

> [...]

Ciao, Thorsten

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