Hi,

On Monday, 27 October 2025 at 18:19:12 Maxime Ripard <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:31:06AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > On 10/27/25 11:28 AM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:01:55AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > > On 10/27/25 7:35 AM, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > > > > > >     - a very simple progress bar, which can be driven through 
> > > > > > > sysfs;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Once you have options to control these settings from user space, you
> > > > > should do it in user space entirely. As Maxime suggested, please 
> > > > > improve
> > > > > plymouth for anything with animation.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >     - a static image (optional).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Board vendors often provide an image, see /sys/firmware/acpi/bgrt/. 
> > > > > This
> > > > > is a candidate for display, or the penguin or a custom image. Please
> > > > > make it configurable by Kconfig. Again, if you need policy and
> > > > > heuristics for deciding what to display, you better do this in user
> > > > > space.
> > > > 
> > > > I'd actually argue that the static image from BGRT should be the 
> > > > preferred
> > > > priority.  This can make for a nice hand off to Plymouth.
> > > > 
> > > > The (UEFI) BIOS already will show this image as soon as the GOP driver 
> > > > is
> > > > loaded.  Bootloaders like GRUB by default will avoid showing anything or
> > > > will overwrite with the exact same image in the same location.  This 
> > > > can let
> > > > the kernel do the same, and then the moment Plymouth takes over it 
> > > > could do
> > > > the same.
> > > 
> > > And BGRT isn't typically found on embedded systems at all, so I'm not
> > > sure it's a sensible default, let alone a priority. At most a possible
> > 
> > There are certainly embedded machines using UEFI and that have a BGRT.
> 
> Yes, indeed, hence the "typically".
> 
> > How about "Sensible default the top of the priority list if it exists"
> 
> How about we don't tell contributors what their priorities must be?
> 
> Maxime
> 

I'm not familiar at all with BGRT, I'll study a bit about it.

A build-time configuration could then let the user select:

- a plain solid color
- a custom static image
- the penguin logo (?)
- (on UEFI systems) BGRT source



Thank you

Regards,
Francesco

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