Hi Paul,

> Am 01.12.2021 um 15:03 schrieb Paul Cercueil <[email protected]>:
> 
> Hi Nikolaus, Mark,
> 
> Le mer., déc. 1 2021 at 14:51:51 +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller 
> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>> Am 01.12.2021 um 14:39 schrieb Mark Brown <[email protected]>:
>>> On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 01:02:45PM +0000, Paul Cercueil wrote:
>>>> Le mar., nov. 30 2021 at 22:26:37 +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller
>>>>> + regulator = devm_regulator_get_optional(&pdev->dev, "hdmi-5v");
>>>>> + if (IS_ERR(regulator)) {
>>>>> +         ret = PTR_ERR(regulator);
>>> Why is this using _optional()?  This should only be done when the supply
>>> can be physically absent
>> There can be +5V for HDMI but without a regulator that is visible to or 
>> controllable
>> by the driver.
> 
> There is always a power supply though. Either a controllable one (through 
> e.g. a GPIO), or it's just connected to the mains +5V; the pin is never left 
> floating. In the second case, in DTS the "hdmi-5v" would be connected to some 
> 5v regulator, even if it's just a dummy VCC-5V regulator. So Mark has a point.
> 
>> So hdmi-5v can be simply missing in DTS in which case the driver does not 
>> need to
>> care about. The driver just can't turn it on or off.
> 
> Please make it mandatory in DTS then, and use devm_regulator_get() in the 
> driver.

Well, I just wonder why the elegant devm_regulator_get_optional() exists at all
and seems to be used in ca. 80 places.

And if it is not allowed, why some DTS should be forced to add not physically 
existing dummy-regulators.
AFAIR drivers should implement functionality defined by DTS but not the other 
way round: enforce DTS style.
BTW: there is no +5 mains dummy regulator defined in ci20.dts.

What I fear is that if we always have to define the mains +5V (which is for 
example not
defined in ci20.dts), which rules stops us from asking to add a dummy-regulator 
from 110/230V to +5V as well.
In last consequence, it seems as if we have to describe all dummy regulators 
from the power plant to our hdmi-5v :)

Since I always follow the KISS principle I tend to leave out what is not 
relevant...

Of course adding a dummy regulator to the DTS allows to avoid the NULL pointer 
test
in the driver code.

Anyways, you are maintainers :)

So should I spin a v11 for the series or just this patch or how should we do it?

BR and thanks,
Nikolaus

> 
> Cheers,
> -Paul
> 
>>> (in which case I'd expect to see special
>>> handling).
>> The special case is to not enable/disable the regulator if it does not exist
>> and assume that there is hardware providing it otherwise (the driver can't 
>> know
>> that except by using get_optional). This is done by the code below
>>>>> + if (IS_ERR(regulator)) {
>> ...
>>> +   if (!regulator)
>>> +           return 0;
>>> +   ret = regulator_enable(regulator);
>> ...
>> BR and thanks,
>> Nikolaus
> 
> 

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