Hi Duane,

On 20 Nov 2025, at 17:30, Duane Powers <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> I have submitted a new individual draft proposing the EXPIRE opcode,
> which allows an authenticated authoritative operator to request
> immediate deletion of a specific RRset from a resolver cache.

Allow me to dig into my historical outhouse of ideas, one moment...

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jabley-dnsop-dns-flush/

The minutes of the dnsop meeting at IETF 87 contain recorded feedback on 
draft-jabley-dnsop-dns-flush that was overwhelmingly negative, including the 
phrase "the worst idea I have ever heard of" from Johan, I think with reference 
to the general idea, not the proposed mechanism, and "I quite like it" from 
Warren, so make of that what you will. I see that Warren and I subsequently 
took the time to write up 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jabley-dnsop-flush-reqs/ but I think we 
lost interest at some point after writing it.

The slides I used included part of Randall Munroe's xkcd-1133 "you have a bad 
problem and will not go to space today" without permission, under the title 
"Requirements Analysis". Slides from IETF 87 no longer seem to be on-line, 
which I think is a shame but which also at least avoids the obvious and very 
reasonable copyright complaint.

Your draft is surely better than mine, but I thought I'd take the opportunity 
to bathe in the historical disgust of that moment once again.


Joe

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