On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 10:14 AM Petr Menšík <pemensik=
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I have been thinking whether there is a good plan how to switch to
> post-quantum resistant algorithms in DNSSEC. I am a software engineer at
> Red Hat and there are a lot of more qualified people about the
> cryptographic part.
>

I see that this draft was recently published, but hasn't seen discussion on
list yet:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sheth-pqc-dnssec-strategy-00

But it seems to me one thing is obvious. New signatures of whatever
> algorithms would be somehow large, compared to what is used today. I
> think the only working model for early adoption is to not punish new
> zones signing in less common algorithms is to dual sign with some proven
> and common at the same time. OpenSSL has nice support for such thing on
> TLS channels. But dual signing in DNSSEC has mostly disadvantages and is
> avoided for a good reason.
>
> I think we need some way how to make it easier to offer less common
> algorithms. I have been thinking about how to do that and put together
> document with my idea. It is not a draft quality, I have never written
> RFC draft for even trivial EDNS extension. But I failed to find
> something similar.
>
> I think it would need to support new algorithms and old algorithms
> together for some time. Just like it is expected on TLS channels.
>
> My idea is to have something similar to RFC 6975 DAU record, but a
> modified variant with primary and backup algorithm sets. Authoritative
> servers would then send only signatures types requested. I expect
> authoritative zones would be dual signed. But validating clients could
> fetch only signatures they want. Or their clients want.
>

See this attempt a few years ago to propose algorithm negotiation in DNSSEC:

   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-huque-dnssec-alg-nego-03

It was discussed at IETF at the time, but there was significant pushback
(mainly
no compelling justification to introduce such additional complexity). I
still think
it's a reasonable idea though.

Shumon.
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