Hi,

One more discussion point spun up last week at OARC, namely about the following 
recommendation in draft-ietf-dnsop-ds-automation. I'd again be delighted to 
learn your views.

Section 5.1:
   5.  In the RRR model, registries SHOULD NOT perform automated DS
       maintenance if it is known that the registrar performs this
       function, or does not support DNSSEC at all.

It was argued that this recommendation -- especially the last part -- is 
unnecessary, and if the registrar doesn't provide a DS interface, then the 
registrant should switch registrars.

However, consider the following draft text:

5.2.1.  Necessity of Non-automatic Updates

   [...] when the registrar is known to not support DNSSEC (or to
   lack a DS provisioning interface), it seems adequate for registries
   to not perform automated DS maintenance, in order to prevent
   situations in which a misconfigured delegation cannot be repaired by
   the registrant.

A practical example is the following list of events:

a) Registrant opted into DNSSEC service with an operator that publishes 
CDS/CDNSKEY records;
b) Registry has seen those records and provisioned a DS RRset;
c) DNS operator goes into hiding (does not respond to customer requests, but 
DNS service still works).

In this case, the registrant
- can't do a secure transition, because keys change;
- also can't publish a CDS-delete record to go insecure.

The last resort then is to turn off DNSSEC through the registrant's manual 
interface.

But if that doesn't exist, not even a "turn it all off" button: should we tell 
the registrant to change registrars? or should the DS automation in step (b) perhaps not 
have occurred?

What do you think?

Thanks,
Peter

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