Hi Roman, 

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

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> De : Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <[email protected]>
> Envoyé : mercredi 9 juillet 2025 19:37
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> Objet : Roman Danyliw's Block on charter-ietf-dnsop-04-01: (with
> BLOCK and COMMENT)
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> Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for
> charter-ietf-dnsop-04-01: Block
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> I am in agreement with Orie about the vague nature of the charter.
> 
> I previously balloted on the -04-00 with the following feedback:
> 
> ==[ snip ]==
> ** What DNS topics are out of scope in the WG?  As framed, it
> appears that nearly everything related to the "DNS protocol" would
> be in scope - BCPs for "DNS protocols (Sentence 1), documents from
> DNS operators (Sentence 2), and "maintenance, updates, and
> extensions to the DNS protocol" (Sentence 3).
> 
> In what way is this scope different than DPRIVE, DELEG, or DNSSD
> that are also defining elements of the "DNS protocol"? ==[ snip ]==
> 
> I don't see any meaningful changes to provide restrictions to the
> charter.  In the discussion on my earlier comment feedback during
> initial review, this WG was framed as one of last resort.  I don't
> see that reflected here.
> 
> Additionally, it isn't clear under what circumstance a new DNS-
> focused group would be established.  Is there a consolidation
> opportunity?  Do we need other DNS-focused WGs (e.g., DPRIVE, DELEG,
> and DNSSD)?  I suspect that consolidation is not the answer, so this
> suggests additions scope to capture in this charter text.

[Med] OK. Updated the charter text to include: "DNS topics which are being 
developed in other IETF WGs are out of scope for the DNSOP WG."

Also, added this text (thanks, Jim):

NEW:

DNS-related I-Ds that don't have an obvious WG which could adopt them can be 
submitted to the DNSOP WG for consideration. The DNSOP WG will advise on the 
appropriate way to progress these I-Ds, for instance by suggesting the most 
suitable WG or recommending the chartering of a new WG.

> 
> I appreciate that the addition of the phrase "as well as other
> narrowly-scoped DNS-related documents" was added to provide scope.
> For me it did the opposite.
>  The original text "The DNSOP WG is also responsible for
> maintenance, updates, and extensions to the DNS protocol" seemed to
> cover nearly everything in DNS by my interpretation.  Now, there is
> additional scope of work that is "DNS-related" which is less clear.

[Med] Removed that part.

> What work is "DNS-related"?
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> I previously balloted on the -04-00 with the following feedback:
> 
> ==[ snip ]==
> ** Without specificity, isn't this statement of "The WG will engage
> with relevant WGs and other appropriate organizations whenever
> collaboration is needed" true for any WG.  How does this shape the
> behavior of the WG?  Can it be more specific? ==[ snip ]==
> 
> 

[Med] Updated to "The WG will engage with relevant WGs and other appropriate 
organizations whenever collaboration is needed, especially for WG adoption and 
Last Calls".
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