(speaking as a chair) Thanks for keeping this discussion civil and reasonable. I can attest that not only folks "new" to DNS can forget things along the way. Just a few weeks ago Mr Levine bonked me on the head (literally) for forgetting RFC6686 "Resolution of the Sender Policy Framework (SPF) and Sender ID Experiments" existed.
Also, unless the RR Type request requires resolver processing, the expert review team has been very reasonable to work with. tim On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 1:14 PM John R Levine <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, 7 Mar 2025, Victor Zhou wrote: > > John - Yes, I am aware of RFCs 8552 and 8553 and the IANA registry for > DNS > > Underscore Names that 8552 creates. Our intention is *not* to compete > with > > or replace the underscore naming scheme, but rather to provide a > > complementary approach specifically focused on progressive adoption of > new > > RR types. > > But we have forty years of history that tells us that "progressive > adoption of new RR types" does not happen. Either a new RR is defined and > people use it, or we repurpose TXT. There is nothing in between. > > The SPF record is a good example of this. SPF was designed and > implemented using TXT records. (They should have used a _spf prefix but > by the time it got to the IETF, it was widely deployed and too late to > change.) When RFC 4408 was nearly done, a handful of DNS people in the > IETF insisted that we use a a different RRTYPE and wouldn't let us publish > the RFC unless we added the SPF type. We knew nobody would use it but we > shrugged our shoulders and added it. To nobody's surprise, people kept > using the TXT record and the SPF record was eventually abandoned. > > I encourage you to find something else to work on, because this one is a > dead end. > > Regards, > John Levine, [email protected], Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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