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Hi,

We’ve looked at root sentinel data (RFC 8509) in our study of the Root KSK 
rollover but back then it was not widely deployed [1].
According to [2] support is rising slowly, so it might be more useful before 
the next rollover.
So personally, from a research point of view, I would not abandon it yet even 
though the signal must be interpreted with care.

—
Moritz

[1] Roll Roll Roll Your Root: A Comprehensive Analysis of the First Ever DNSSEC 
Root KSK Rollover 
https://www.sidnlabs.nl/downloads/3mSYgcR3dYeCZvMQItOS1G/0b898a6a4407a64d52401b302fb098d5/author_version.pdf
[2] https://dnsthought.nlnetlabs.nl/#ta_20326

> On 23 Jun 2021, at 15:23, Roy Arends <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ondrej
> 
>> On 23 Jun 2021, at 08:10, Ondřej Surý <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> during the last RZ KSK rollover we scrambled to add the Root Key Sentinel
>> to the code and as far as I know it did give us different data than was 
>> expected.
> 
> I am going to assume you are referring to RFC8145 (Signaling Trust Anchor 
> Knowledge in DNSSEC) and not RFC8509 (A Root Key Trust Anchor Sentinel for 
> DNSSEC). My apologies if you meant the latter, as I have no information on 
> that.
> 
>> So, my current question is:
>> 
>> - is it still useful?
> 
> Personally, I find it interesting data, but I currently have no business case 
> for it.
> 
>> - will it be useful for the next RZ KSK rollover?
> 
> It may be.
> 
>> - is anybody gathering the data right now?
> 
> We (the Office of the CTO at ICANN) received accumulated stats from Root 
> Server Operators before and during the last rollover. We do not receive them 
> currently. While we have access to IMRS traffic data, we do not currently 
> process RFC8145 signals.
> 
>> - is anybody planning to gather the data before the next RZ KSK rollover?
> 
> I am going to assume that that is going to happen.
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ondrej
>> --
>> Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
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