On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 03:57:21PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-09-16 at 12:30 +0000, Derek Wilson wrote:
> > I probably yelled too much in that thread for it to be effective (sorry)
> 
> > Your comments in the thread are loud, rude, and almost consistently
> > incorrect. You've shown some fine examples of the blatant disregard some 
> > users
> > have for all this wonderful software they get for free, and the developers
> > that put in effort to write that software. This demonstrates a messed up 
> > sense
> > of entitlement and a total disrespect for developers that is all too common 
> > today.

code is law, felt especially strongly by those who can't add features to 
open-source
software, or who can't get them upstreamed due to overwork or vision 
differences, or
who can't add features to closed-source software because they lack source code. 
there
may not be an alternative platform that works better. i say this for background,
because:

1. i tried for ten years to get a few features added to Psi (a jabber client), 
and i
could not find anyone who would take them, nor anyone who could review and 
improve
them, even for money. eventually i dropped Psi, and later, dropped jabber 
itself. this
was not in the Psi project's best interests. my unheeded cries for help were 
actually
attempts to help the project. i wasn't asking for something-for-nothing, either.

2. same for KDE kmail/kontact, though last year (2019) was a breakthrough, it 
took a
long time and a torch bearing mob. i'd've been much happier with a gofundme 
campaign.

3. ISC was originally chartered to focus external resources (money and 
services) on
community needs (software, protocols, and services). even so there was one time 
when
leo bicknell asked why we were keeping 10-year-old bug reports in our RT 
instance and
nobody knew, so he deleted everything older than last january 1. we never 
noticed.

open source is very powerful, but when it's not right, there's usually zero 
recourse.

-- 
Paul Vixie
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