> Someone wants to create a browser UI for an access db.  can't change the db, 
> even though A) access can talk to other engines via odbc and B) it will cost 
> someone else more.
> 
> python does odbc, there is already a MsSql_oledb for django module, so all I 
> need to do is make one for access.  I'm a db guy, and access is a db, so it 
> shouldn't be too hard, right?  

I'll toss a couple caveats on the table and let you evaluate them 
against your needs :)

There seem to be a couple warts on the ado_mssql 
driver/backend--mostly due to some brain-damaged decisions on the 
MS end of things.

One I noticed was slicing, as MSSQL and Access (ADB) don't 
support the LIMIT syntax, but do support TOP which means that 
instead of doing

   SELECT * FROM app_model LIMIT 10 OFFSET 20;

you're stuck with something like

   SELECT TOP 10 * FROM app_model; -- no OFFSET ability

This makes pagination a drag.  'cuz yeah...I really want to pull 
back N+M records when all I asked for was M records.

It might be feasible to do some sort of "(top M of ((top N+M) 
reverse-sorted)) reverse-sorted again" which is an obcene hack. 
One worthy of a 100-year sentence being stuck doing 
data-conversions for clients that don't know what .

Random ordering (using "?" as your order) is also broken as the 
Rand() function is only evaluated once (not per-row).  Thus, if 
you try to order by it, it does nothing.  It would be like 
ordering by a constant-valued column.

I believe MSSQL/ADB are generally case-insensitive (you can 
switch MSSQL to be case sensitive, but it makes all sorts of 
things very fragile, as this is deviance from the norm).

I've also had ADB fall over on me for no good reason in complex 
queries.  For some reason it usually has to do with a simple 
ORDER BY clause on a complex query; yet simply wrapping the whole 
thing in "SELECT * FROM (<complex query>) ORDER BY <desired 
order>" solves the problem for me.  If I remove the ORDER BY from 
the original query, it works just fine.  Go figure.

Those are my ADB & MSSQL frustrations that come to me off the top 
of my head.  I'm sure there are more, but that should be enough 
to make you use sqlite and hoodwink the party that thinks ADB is 
${DIETY}'s gift to databases ;)

> Anyone know where I am going to get screwed?

heh, it wouldn't be polite to say in mixed company  ]:-D


-tim






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