#35425: .save(force_update=True) not respected for model instances with default
primary keys
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     Reporter:  Jacob Walls          |                    Owner:  Jacob
                                     |  Walls
         Type:  Bug                  |                   Status:  assigned
    Component:  Database layer       |                  Version:  4.2
  (models, ORM)                      |
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Simon Charette):

 * cc: Simon Charette (added)
 * stage:  Unreviewed => Accepted

Comment:

 Having `save()` always do the expected thing when called on a newly
 created instance of a model with a primary key configured with a Python
 level default is a complex situation as you've pointed out.

 Given the ORM has historically expected newly created model instances to
 be used for ''additions'' and uses `_state.adding` to take a decision in
 the face of ambiguity I still believe that #29260 was the right thing to
 do.

 With that being said, when being explicitly told what to do via
 `force_update=True` there is no `save` ambiguity and thus we should not
 fallback to `force_insert`. In this sense I think this represents a valid
 bug and the provided patch seems adequate.
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Ticket URL: <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/35425#comment:4>
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