#34976: Feature request: startproject and startapp should provide feedback
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               Reporter:  Thibaud    |          Owner:  nobody
  Colas                              |
                   Type:  New        |         Status:  new
  feature                            |
              Component:  Core       |        Version:  dev
  (Management commands)              |       Keywords:  tutorial, command,
               Severity:  Normal     |  startproject, startapp
           Triage Stage:             |      Has patch:  0
  Unreviewed                         |
    Needs documentation:  0          |    Needs tests:  0
Patch needs improvement:  0          |  Easy pickings:  0
                  UI/UX:  1          |
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 Initially proposed on the [https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/feature-
 request-startproject-and-startapp-should-provide-feedback/24073/1 Django
 Forum – Feature request: startproject and startapp should provide
 feedback], where this received 4 "likes" and 5 comments saying this was a
 good enhancement.

 > I’d like to propose adding a success message / feedback when running the
 startproject and startapp commands. For people who are experienced devs it
 might be expected that a successful script exists without any output. For
 beginners, it can be very confusing.
 >
 > This shows up as an issue for people who go through Django tutorials, as
 django-admin and startproject are often their first point of contact with
 the framework after installing Django.
 >
 > From personal experience with Django Girls in particular, this is
 causing a common issue where people won’t realise the command has worked
 so will run it multiple times with different options (for example with or
 without a destination folder), which leads to at best confusing error
 messages, at worst multiple projects created within one-another.

 == Output options

 Based on the feedback in the forum, I’d recommend starting with the
 simplest output of confirming the command worked and restating what
 happened.

 === Success one-liner

 For example, running:

 {{{
 django-admin startproject mysite
 }}}

 This would display be:

 > Success! Created mysite at
 /absolute/path/to/where/startproject/created/mysite

 I think adding this to `startproject` or `startapp` would make for a great
 PR (or two great PRs).

 === Files created

 If the person taking this on has the skills, it’d be nice to also display
 a recap of what files were created. This will be relevant for both
 commands, and no matter what template was in use.

 For example, running:

 {{{
 django-admin startproject mysite
 }}}

 We could show:

 {{{
 mysite
 ├── manage.py
 └── mysite
        ├── __init__.py
        ├── asgi.py
        ├── settings.py
        ├── urls.py
        └── wsgi.py
 }}}

 This could be a separate PR if this proves complex. And if this kind of
 good-looking line art is too hard to do in Django, we could use simple
 indentation instead:

 {{{
 mysite/
     manage.py
     mysite/
         __init__.py
         settings.py
         urls.py
         asgi.py
         wsgi.py
 }}}

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