On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 5:27:02 PM UTC+1 pe...@lincolnloop.com wrote:

> In my ideal scenario, the default is a hard-coded settings file for the 
> project (deprecating DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE env var) and we have 
> CONFIG_LOADERS defined in the settings that could do env, toml, etc. 
> Perhaps things like django.setup, 
>
django.core.wsgi.get_wsgi_application, and 
> django.core.management.execute_from_command_line could accept the settings 
> module as an argument? django-admin could accept a --settings flag?
>

I doubt that will ever fly. There is no project so to say in Django. 
Currently literally everything depends on knowing a 
`DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE` from which everything else can follow (even the 
wsgi app…). So without a settings file how would you know that hard-coded 
path for it? Django has no concept of a project that you could import. You 
also cannot easily put `CONFIG_LOADERS` in a settings file like we 
currently have because then how are you going to evaluate that while also 
executing all the other module level stuff. And django-admin command all 
already support a `--settings` flag (as alternative to 
DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE ;))

Either way I doubt we will deprecating DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE any time 
soon. And I don't see it such of a problem with being there. Projects can 
set it (and startproject already does this) to a fixed value in manage.py & 
wsgi.py. For a project that installs a custom entrypoint script, you can 
also preset it to whatever you like.

Please note that we are trying to load stuff from files & env vars in the 
first step, not throw out settings.py at the same time…

Cheers,
Florian

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