FWIW, I agree with Tim and Carlton. There doesn't seem to me to be a compelling argument for recommending developers to change the default "/admin" url. Any security concerns would hopefully be addressed by actual security safeguards rather than changing names to something non-standard.
On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 7:44:21 AM UTC-8 carlton...@gmail.com wrote: > On this topic, a ticket proposing to prepend the project name to the > `admin/` URL in the default project template was opened. > https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/32209 > > Given that it's the exact discussion we're having here, I've paused that > to see if there's a consensus for a change. > > Thanks. C. > > On Thursday, 19 November 2020 at 12:35:00 UTC+1 shan...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I've got this idea with the usage of json files that require some keys >> which is authenticated for a single user which seems to excite me for fact >> that if this was similar for admin/, then it'd give django a overhead >> advantages for future use. >> >> On Thu, 19 Nov, 2020, 4:09 pm Carlton Gibson, <carlton...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I think I'd come down as -1 for a system check here... >>> >>> They're not costless, there's a tendency to want to add a new system >>> check for every possible configuration choice, but, beyond implementing and >>> maintaining, the danger is it leads to too much noise. >>> If you get a system check warning, you shouldn't be tempted to ignore >>> it. In general I think reserving the built-in checks slightly means they >>> don't get devalued. (Folks are free, and encouraged, to implement, and >>> share, their own checks to enforce project-level standards.) >>> >>> I think it's not sufficiently clear-cut that using `/admin/` is a bad >>> idea to justify including a check. >>> >>> (On a personal note, I like to use `/admin/`, configure nginx to only >>> serve the admin from the localhost, and then use an SSH tunnel to access it >>> remotely, so I'd have to silence a system check here.) >>> >>> C. >>> >>> On Wednesday, 18 November 2020 at 22:15:38 UTC+1 Carles Pina Estany >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I wasn't convinced about changing the 'admin' path until recently. My >>>> reasons to change the path of 'admin' are: >>>> >>>> -A bit less likely to be affected by bugs like >>>> >>>> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.1/releases/3.0.1/#cve-2019-19844-potential-account-hijack-via-password-reset-form >>>> >>>> : at least the site wouldn't appear in automatic scans for >>>> vulnerabilities (if checking Django versions based on the admin >>>> template, etc.) . The bug/exploit might have been known before the fix >>>> was implemented (and everyone updated) so I prefer to not be exposed >>>> (or >>>> less exposed) >>>> >>>> -At the moment in Django there is no rate-limiting login attempts "out >>>> of the box" so I prefer to avoid the opportunity if possible >>>> >>>> -Partially out of my control: an 'admin' user might have used the same >>>> password in another place and the password got leaked >>>> >>>> Other people might have other reasons. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> On Nov/18/2020, Tim Graham wrote: >>>> > I'm not convinced that a system check promoting security by obscurity >>>> adds >>>> > much value. The original poster wrote "sometimes it can be a security >>>> > concern." Maybe that's the case (how so?) but for most sites I would >>>> say >>>> > it's not. >>>> > On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 7:33:47 AM UTC-5 Carles Pina >>>> Estany >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > Hi, >>>> > > >>>> > > On Nov/16/2020, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > > Either way: I'd be happy to write a django check to make sure >>>> that >>>> > > > 'admin/' is not routed to admin. >>>> > > >>>> > > Regarding this check: this morning I've done a very preliminary/for >>>> fun >>>> > > draft to play with. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> https://github.com/cpina/django/commit/199c2fb26dc6b323195b8136bda596d1cc9857f1 >>>> >>>> > > >>>> > > I'm not sure what is the best way to check if /admin is routed to >>>> > > django.contrib.admin. At the moment it's doing: >>>> > > >>>> > > resolve(admin_url)._func_path == 'django.contrib.admin.sites.index' >>>> > > >>>> > > Yes, I know! :-) >>>> > > >>>> > > I could also do something along the lines of: >>>> > > resolve(admin_url).func.admin_site == admin.site >>>> > > >>>> > > This causes problems on the unit test side (need to import >>>> admin.site). >>>> > > Still I don't really like it. >>>> > > >>>> > > Does anyone have any better suggestions or comments? (or code >>>> pointer). >>>> > > Otherwise later on I'll have another look. >>>> > > >>>> > > Thank you very much, >>>> > > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > Carles Pina i Estany >>>> > > https://carles.pina.cat >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/df485a53-2ad2-461f-95c8-f8f3857d67dbn%40googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Carles Pina i Estany >>>> https://carles.pina.cat >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/61afea37-34af-4271-91cb-e4a116c1eb71n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/61afea37-34af-4271-91cb-e4a116c1eb71n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. 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