One alternative to the scraper might be using Google Takeout š„” (https://takeout.google.com/), but itās unclear if that would export the messages themselves. And it would require the actual owner of the group to do that with their account.
Tom > On 29 Oct 2020, at 15:05, Tom Forbes <t...@tomforb.es> wrote: > > ļ»æI think a google groups to discourse import is more than possible and would > be good. I was quite skeptical about discourse at first, but itās really > quite awesome and definitely a set up from google groups. > > After a brief bit of searching I can see there is a tool to export all > messages from a google group[1]. Discourse has a pretty good API but lacks > the ability to create messages as another user using an admin API key, so we > can do the import one of two ways. For each groups message we: > > 1. Take the email and create a pseudo-user with a specific email address > (t...@tomforb.es.groups.import), then post as that user > 2. Attempt to look up if the user already exists in Discourse, create an API > token for them and post the message as that user. > > Either way we get a central, searchable place for these messages. The first > is far simpler but we loose attribution for users registered on both places. > The second required adding a specific API key to existing users, which might > trigger some confusing emails. > > I have some time free in the next few days and Iād love to do a proof of > concept to see if itās feasible, but Iād need elevated permissions on the > forum. > > Tom > > 1. https://github.com/icy/google-group-crawler > >>> On 29 Oct 2020, at 10:54, Carlton Gibson <carlton.gib...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> ļ»æ >> Hi Jure. Thanks for the follow-up. >> >> I'm not sure there are SO MANY misplaced emails but bracketing thatā¦ >> >> I spoke to the Ops team. The group IS moderated BUT there's no way to >> communicate with someone that they've sent to the wrong address, so unless >> it's actual spam (vs usage question wrong place ā I hope that distinction >> makes sense) it's let through. (Adam's quick-fire "You've found the wrong >> list..." being more friendly than the silent abyss.) >> >> So that's the "serious issue with the moderation queue" you speak of. >> (We COULD MAYBE change policy there butā¦) >> >> >> PAUSE FOR BREATH >> >> >> We could also decamp on mass to the forum (forum.djangoproject.com) >> >> That has Topics. Someone posts in Internals > Mentorship with a usage >> question and moderators just move it to Using Django. >> Very simple. >> >> The UI is also great. >> The notifications are customizable. >> >> It's Open Source. >> >> I'll mention one more... >> >> When you're typing a post, it searches the history to show you similar >> posts. >> >> The only downside would be loosing the archive here. >> >> I search that. I wonder how many others do? (Some definitely) >> >> Could we bit that bullet? >> >> Could we export the data from here and move it? >> https://support.google.com/groups/answer/9975859?hl=en >> Anyone happen to have the full list history already? >> >> I wonder what an import/export would look like. >> >> >> AND BREATHE >> >> (š) >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Carlton >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 at 06:40:02 UTC+1 jure.er...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I think this thread was abandoned, but wrongfully so. Frequency of >>> unrelated posts is increasing lately. >>> >>> Are there any serious issues with the moderation queue Google provides? >>> >>> Reminder: https://support.google.com/groups/answer/2466386?hl=en >>> >>> >>> LP, >>> Jure >>> >>>> On Saturday, 25 July 2020 at 00:58:26 UTC+2 m...@kye.id.au wrote: >>>> This issue is exacerbated by similarly unaware / uncaring mailing list >>>> users responding to support requests. >>>> >>>> What is the best path forward here? >>>> >>>>>> On 10 Jul 2020, at 3:09 pm, Jure Erznožnik <jure.er...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> ļ»æ >>>> >>>>> I too volunteer for the screening job. >>>>> >>>>> LP, >>>>> Jure >>>>> >>>>> On 09/07/2020 16:10, Peter Inglesby wrote: >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any moderation for posts from new users? It can be enabled, >>>>>> and I'd be willing to be part of a team that filters posts from new >>>>>> users. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 13:59, Adam Johnson <m...@adamj.eu> wrote: >>>>>>> I think that's a good improvement, not bikeshedding :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 13:17, Shai Berger <sh...@platonix.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Sorry for the bike-shedding, but I think the text should drop the >>>>>>>> "using Django" language. The people who come here with these questions >>>>>>>> clearly think of themselves as developers, not users. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMO It should go something like, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Welcome to django-developers, the mailing list for discussion >>>>>>>> of the development of Django itself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This mailing list is not for support developing apps and >>>>>>>> websites with Django. For support, please follow the "Getting >>>>>>>> Help" page: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.0/faq/help/ . >>>>>>>> This page will direct you to the django-users mailing list or >>>>>>>> other resources, so you can find people who are willing to >>>>>>>> support you, and to ask your question in a way that makes it >>>>>>>> easy for them to answer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Django Community >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 11:50:16 +0100 >>>>>>>> Adam Johnson <m...@adamj.eu> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Okay I'm in favour. That said, there's already a banner on the groups >>>>>>>> > page: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > This group is for the discussion of the development of Django itself. >>>>>>>> > If >>>>>>>> > > you want to ask questions about using Django, please post on >>>>>>>> > > django-users. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Suggested wording, adapted from my templated reply: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Welcome to django-developers, the mailing list for discussion of the >>>>>>>> > > development of Django itself. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > This mailing list is not for support using Django. For support, >>>>>>>> > > please follow the "Getting Help" page: >>>>>>>> > > https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.0/faq/help/ . This page will >>>>>>>> > > direct you to the django-users mailing list or other resources, so >>>>>>>> > > you can find people who are willing to support you, and to ask your >>>>>>>> > > question in a way that makes it easy for them to answer. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Thanks, >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > The Django Community >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Who has access to add this? Someone from the DSF board, the ops team, >>>>>>>> > or the fellows? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 00:02, Ahmad A. Hussein >>>>>>>> > <ahmadah...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > +1 on this. Here's the relevant feature >>>>>>>> > > <https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/9308780?hl=en> I found. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Ahmad >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 7:58 PM Adam Johnson <m...@adamj.eu> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >> I can't find a google groups feature that would allow this. Do you >>>>>>>> > >> know of one? It might otherwise require a custom bot. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 16:14, Arvind Nedumaran >>>>>>>> > >> <arvind...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>> Oh I understand. I meant we could include the distinction in the >>>>>>>> > >>> welcome email and possibly a link to the other list. >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> That may reduce the number of people who may be looking for help >>>>>>>> > >>> but end up here mistakenly? >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> > >>> *From:* django-d...@googlegroups.com < >>>>>>>> > >>> django-d...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of ×××Ø× >>>>>>>> > >>> <u...@speedy.net> *Sent:* Sunday, July 5, 2020 8:39:22 PM >>>>>>>> > >>> *To:* Django developers (Contributions to Django itself) < >>>>>>>> > >>> django-d...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: Welcome email >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> I think because this list is called Django developers and what we >>>>>>>> > >>> call "Django users" are also developers who use Django. But they >>>>>>>> > >>> are developers. >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> ×××Ø× >>>>>>>> > >>> u...@speedy.net >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 5:59 PM Arvind Nedumaran >>>>>>>> > >>> <arvind...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> Hey everyone, >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> I notice that people who try to find support on using Django >>>>>>>> > >>> mistakenly post in this list and sometime usually has to write an >>>>>>>> > >>> explanation about how this is the wrong place. >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> Could we possibly as a welcome email whenever someone joins the >>>>>>>> > >>> group? >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> Just a suggestion. >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> Best, >>>>>>>> > >>> Arvind >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> -- >>>>>>>> > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> > >>> Google >>>>>>>> > >>> Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" >>>>>>>> > >>> group. >>>>>>>> > >>> To 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