Hey folks,

Sorry for not providing a more specific scenario before, was short on time 
and just wanted to kick this off.

The most common scenario that I can think of (and the one that most similar 
to our usage) would be a *form field* on a Django site, that allows users 
to input a URL which is saved and later displayed *as a link to* other 
users (e.g in blogs, comments, CMS systems, etc).

Here's an example of a site, though clearly not a very reputable one: 
http://online_casino_news.hundredpercentgambling.com/ . Note that google 
groups automatically converted this one to a URL for me, and I was able to 
click and follow it both on Chrome and Firefox.

In the above use case, by validating the correctness of the URL, we protect 
a user from making a mistake, but we don't really care about adhering to 
standards beyond that, the usability wins.

There are other use cases, that might care about RFC 952 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc952>/1034 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1034#section-3.5> guidelines about 
hostname. For example, if we're building a hosting or a name server 
management system, or maybe SSL certificates vendor.
In such cases, it might actually benefit the user if the platform alerts on 
the validity of the hostname chosen by the user (at the very least to 
advise the users).

However, I would guess that the first use case, of taking a URL to store 
and render it as a link, would be more common and thus more frequently 
needing to override the class.

I can also propose a solution that would still work for both: (deprecate 
and) rename the current class to StrictURLValidator (or 
URLValidatorRFC1034), to still be easily used for the less common scenarios.

What do you think?

Best Regards,
Pavel


On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 2:36:33 PM UTC+1, Adam Johnson wrote:
>
> Hi Pavel
>
> The ticket ( https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20264 ) doesn't 
> mention any specific use cases, and nor have you. What has this behaviour 
> blocked for you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 12:46, Pavel Savchenko <asfa...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I've just encountered this issue, and it seems Django's URLValidator 
>> regex for host is trying to abide to RFC 1034 recommendation 
>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1034#section-3.5> , when there are many 
>> sites in the wild that use underscore in their domain name.
>>
>> Can we please discuss this issue here, so we can eventually decide to 
>> reopen the ticket (or not) and perhaps allow for a pull-request to fix it?
>>
>> I found this stackoverflow question helpful, with many answers/comments 
>> with additional references: 
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2180465/can-domain-name-subdomains-have-an-underscore-in-it
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Pavel
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