Django developers,

https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30439

I think Django 2.2 (which is LTS) should be updated in a way that using
these functions to translate will be backward-compatible, so that
everything that worked with Django up to 2.1 will keep working in Django
2.2 and above. Currently this is not the case in Hebrew with Speedy Net
<https://github.com/speedy-net/speedy-net>, which starts displaying error
messages in English in the Hebrew websites (Speedy Net & Speedy Match) when
I upgrade Django to 2.2, which is *not* what I expect. In Django up to 2.1
these error messages are translated to Hebrew, which *is* what I expect.

After encountering this problem I decided to keep Speedy Net in Django 2.1
(which I upgraded from 1.11 about 3 weeks ago) until there is a solution,
or at least until I can make Speedy Net work in Hebrew in Django 2.2 and
above. However, I understand the end-of-life of Django 2.1 is coming soon,
which means we will be using an obsolete version of Django in a production
website.

As long as this issue is not resolved, I would appreciate if you will
extend the end-of-life date of Django 2.1 to at least one or two months
after this issue will be resolved. Yes I know I can downgrade Django to
1.11 and use it until April 2020, but since I already upgraded to 2.1 I'm
not sure it's a good idea to downgrade Django now. And also, since Django
2.2 was released almost 8 months ago, I'm not sure if this problem will be
resolved before April 2020. #30439
<https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30439> was opened about 7 months ago
and it's still not resolved.

אורי
u...@speedy.net


‪On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:47 AM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net> wrote:‬

> Hi,
>
> I want to add that it was very simple to upgrade Django from 1.11 to 2.0
> and then to 2.1, I only had to change minor changes in my code - changing
> to class-based views and updating my tests to reflect the 403 pages
> (instead of a 302 redirect), so thanks for maintaining Django and for not
> breaking too many things when upgrading Django from one version to another.
>
> I hope you will agree to revert the changes done to ngettext_lazy and
> ngettext in version 2.2 and then I will be able to upgrade Django to the
> next LTS version.
>
> אורי
> u...@speedy.net
>
>
> ‪On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:18 AM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net> wrote:‬
>
>> Django developers,
>>
>> I opened ticket https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30939 and I was
>> referred to https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30439 as a
>> duplicate. I don't understand why you need such a long formula to decide if
>> a number is singular or plural. If it's 1 it's singular, otherwise it's
>> plural. What's wrong about that?
>>
>> If you want to define a function with 4 strings for 4 different numbers,
>> you should define a new function and not edit ngettext_lazy and ngettext.
>> My code which works with all Django versions up to 2.1, breaks with Django
>> 2.2. This issue prevents me from upgrading Django to 2.2. Is this change
>> documented in the release notes? I didn't find it there. I would like to
>> keep using ngettext_lazy with 2 strings (when the number is either 1 or not
>> 1) and not with 4 strings. Actually I always use plural but because similar
>> validators used ngettext_lazy (MinLengthValidator and MaxLengthValidator in
>> django.core.validators) I also used it in my validators. But the number I'm
>> using is never equal to 1.
>>
>> You can see my code here (search for "ngettext_lazy"):
>>
>> https://github.com/speedy-net/speedy-net/blob/master/speedy/core/accounts/validators.py
>>
>>
>> And the relevant Django code:
>>
>> https://github.com/django/django/blob/master/django/core/validators.py#L348-L377
>>
>>
>> אורי
>> u...@speedy.net
>>
>

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