The only problem I can see is dependencies conflicts, where Django would need package X version > 1.0 and another installed package would need package X version 0.9. I have this issue with a project of mine that required six >= 1.10 and for some reason Xcode on OSX with the system Python (ie. not installed with brew for example) forces you to have six 1.9, which comes before in the PYTHONPATH. I know that Lektor <https://www.getlektor.com/> for example solves this by having an install script <https://www.getlektor.com/install.sh> that creates a virtualenv and installs it inside this virtualenv. Also James mentioned that "back in the days pip wasn't as awesome as it is today", but we have to keep in mind that a lot of OSes still use an old pip version by default (Debian stable for example ships pip 1.5 <https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python-pip&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all>).
Anyway as long as Django is installed in a virtualenv this shouldn't be too much of an issue, but I think we should expect some issues from the users and these should be documented otherwise people might get frustrated. Cheers, Sylvain On Apr 6, 2016 13:43, "Marc Tamlyn" <marc.tam...@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone (potentially from OS packaging worlds maybe) have a good > reason NOT to have a dependency? > > In the event that Django does have Pip dependencies, I still think we > should establish some rules. Things like they should be stable and mature, > and perhaps widely known, and still be under active maintenance. These are > all hazy ideas of course, but I think adding any new dependency should be > something which we are cautious of, not something we do without careful > consideration. > > If someone can put together some documentation or a DEP for how this > process would work, I think this is a matter significant enough to talk > about properly, and in a thread more clearly named. Such a proposal should > also ideally reference what we do or have vendored before, why, and how > well of otherwise that process has worked. > > Marc > On 5 Apr 2016 9:49 a.m., "James Pic" <james...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Adding dependencies would definitely be a huge step forward. I think >> Django doesn't have them because pip wasn't as awesome as it is today >> back in the early days, but nowadays it would definitely make sense. >> That would mean a bit more work for distribution package maintainers >> but if we can start communicating with them about it then would there >> be any reason not to do this move ? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CALC3Kae1Mt5LzYRq0PQbQcEMKwvbK%2Begr4FuC6baB5NZZtSbtA%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAMwjO1HqgJ%3DM93yWgmatZtc4s8%3DRB8FFfga24aJ3X_D_Ey2xdw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAMwjO1HqgJ%3DM93yWgmatZtc4s8%3DRB8FFfga24aJ3X_D_Ey2xdw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAAXOc44oMGNo38_CNw%2BnEKFEK_NWXPSPG8b0%2B1YKq%2Bi08ARMng%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
