Hi Collin,

On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 10:56:33 PM UTC+1, Collin Green wrote:
>
> Ugh. As a strong advocate of both django and zappa, I'd love it if we 
> could keep the conversation on target without degenerating into stack 
> attacks. If you don't want to weigh in, please feel no obligation to do so.
>

Sorry that wasn't ment as attack (maybe I should have written it out a 
little bit better). Please understand that most of us have no experience 
with Lambda or whatever you are currently using. I really have no idea what 
"cached code" or "internal state" in that sense means. As for the 
application stack: Since Python is slow to start up and on every bigger 
project you are going to need to implement loads of modules, you have a 
long startup time -- stuff like this prompted the switch from CGI to FCGI 
ages ago (this was what prompted me to make the sane application stack 
"joke"). Do not get me wrong, I love Django, but if you are going back to a 
CGI like environment, I am not convinced that it is the best tool (though 
if you can clear up what "cached code", "internal state", "serverless 
infrastructure" etc actually means instead of throwing them around like 
buzzwords and assuming we all know what you mean that would be helpful too).
 

> I do agree that we could pare down the profile into more actionable 
> sections. I'll see if I can get something a bit more preprocessed in the 
> near future. Perhaps that will help keep this thread on target.
>

Please do so, especially how much time is spent in importing and 
configuring python modules -- then substract those from your timings and 
see what else is left.

Cheers,
Florian

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