On Monday, 1 June 2015 03:32:26 UTC+2, Rotund wrote:
>
> I actually think this is a great idea. In my mind it parallels Drupal's 
> "block" idea. (This is actually what I keep hoping DjangoCMS is.)
>
> That stated, it is more of a construct. I think a great idea is to make an 
> extension module.
>

Thanks! And I definitely think this should be developed as a separate 
module.
 

> I don't know how long you've been in this community, but Django is now 
> quite stable and people rely on their APIs. Your bold ideas really need to 
> be tested by fire before they go into the Django proper. There's been lots 
> of discussion about a year ago to remove/reduce a lot of the contrib.
>
> Being in Django is where things go to die. Once an API is released to the 
> public, it takes a fair amount of work to remove/change it. You don't even 
> want to know how long it took to get schema migrations into Django. South 
> had been the defacto way for quite a few years. That stated, Andrew had to 
> make some changes to South due to design decisions that were made earlier 
> in South. Before that, there was other projects like django-evolution 
> (which just got an update 2 months ago).
>

I've been in the community a long while, so I know how things usually work. 
My hope for this is that there would be a strong need in the community to 
solve these kinds of problems. This doesn't mean that the process will be 
any different, or take less time.
 

> So, I followed the Drupal group for a while. The thing the Django 
> community really needs is a couple good opinionated groups of how to put 
> together a good Django site. Drupal has Lullabot (who have quite a few core 
> devs on staff). Django is not going to be the people telling people how to 
> use Django. You seem like a great person to start this for Django. Note 
> that you'll have to have a thick skin and create some pretty great sites in 
> your own right to prove out your ideas to others. You'll also need to get 
> your ideas out via things like blog posts, tutorials, and podcasts.
>
> I would like the Caktus, DjangoCMS, FeinCMS, etc people to do the same. 
> This would help people to see some different ideas on how to use and extend 
> Django.
>
 
This is a neat idea and I would really want to read those blog posts. Maybe 
that's the way to go.

I don't see my set of ideas to be THAT opinionated. None of them force you 
to change your existing sites. I see them as tools, that someone that needs 
heavier javascript features will definitely need. 

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