W dniu 31.08.2012 10:25, Tom Christie pisze:
> I personally think that Forms are already the place that should handle (de)serialisation. They already serialise to HTML: why should they not be able to serialise to other stream types?

Conceptually I agree. As it happens django-serializers is perfectly capable of rendering into HTML forms, I just haven't yet gotten around to writing a form renderer, since it was out-of-scope of the fixture serialization functionality.

Pragmatically, I'm not convinced it'd work very well. The existing Forms implementation is tightly coupled to form-data input and HTML output, and I think trying to address that without breaking backwards compatibility would be rather difficult. It's maybe easy enough to do for flat representations, and pk relationships, but extending it to deal with nested representations, being able to use a Form as a field on another Form, and representing custom relationships would all take some serious hacking. My personal opinion is that whatever benefits you'd gain in DRYness, you'd lose in code complexity. Having said that, if someone was able to hack together a Forms-based fixture serialization/deserialization implementation that passes the Django test suite, and didn't look too kludgy, I'd be perfectly willing to revise my opinion.

I am not quite sure but I think Forms should be build based on some serialization API not opposite. Forms are more precise way of models serialization - they are models serialized to html (specific format) with some validation (specific actions) when deserializing.


I like Tom's django-serialziers but there are some things that I want to mention:

* Process of serialization is split to two parts - transformation to python native datatype (serializer) and next to specific text format (renderer). But when serializing also Field is saved with data so it's not so clean. I also have an issues with this but I resolve it in different way (not say better :)

* In master branch Serializer is closely tied to Renderer so if there is different Renderer class than new Serializer is needed. In forms branch it is done in __init__ serialize method and this must be rewrite for backward compatibility if django-serializers goes to core. I want to propose my solution [1]: For each format there is Serializer class which is made from NativeSerializer ( from models to python native datatype) and FormatSerializer (Renderer)

class Serializer(object):
    # class for native python serialization/deserialization
    SerializerClass = NativeSerializer
    # class for specific format serialization/deserialization
    RendererClass = FormatSerializer

    def serialize(self, queryset, **options):

    def deserialize(self, stream_or_string, **options):

Deserializer = Serializer

This is fully backward compatible and user can do:
serializers.serialize('registered_format', objects, serializer=MyNativeSerializer)

This will make new Serializer class with SerializerClass == MyNativeSerializer. In this solution NativeSerializer and FormatSerializer are more independent. In my solution each NativeSerializer can be render by each FormatSerializer but it's not so simple. FormatSerializer provide NativeSerializer with some context so you can tell that NativeSerializer knows what format will be serialized. It's not exactly format but some metadata about it. I am not proud of this :/

* IMO there is bug related to xml. All model fields must be transform to text before xml serialization. In current django serialization framework field's method value_to_string is responsible for this. In django-serializers this method is not always called so it can lead to error with custom model field

[1] https://github.com/grapo/django/tree/soc2012-serialization/django/core/serializers

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